well, when your not the man, you are always trying to be the man.  or the
woman for that matter
and try as they may, they will probably never be cfmx 6.1 or blackstone or
whatever else the  mm team
comes up with.  its good for us, it will always make mm work towards staying
ahead of their competition
but, im not sure its something to worry about.  companies that are educated
and really are dedicated to
investing in their web solution shouldn't really have a problem spending
1200 on cfmx server or whatever
it costs now, that's chump change for the GREAT things we can do with it.

its all about the sale and managing expectations.  if cf developers were
better at selling themselves
and their creations, that cost of the server wouldn't even be a blink in the
eye of their clients.

...tony

tony weeg
senior web applications architect
navtrak, inc.
www.navtrak.net
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
410.548.2337

-----Original Message-----
From: Samuel Neff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 8:45 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Another CFML app server...

I think the fact that their engine requires each CF tag be on it's own line
is indicative of a structure problem.  Parsers have been around pretty much
as long as computers have been and techniques for building parsers are
pretty well established.  Structural requirements like this are pretty rare.
If they built coral without a proper parser, what else is done improperly?

Scares me off quite a bit.

And besides, what about code like this:

<tr bgcolor="<cfif condition>red<cfelse>green</cfif>">

It's horrible code that I wouldn't write in a new app but it exists in
pretty much every app i'm maintaining.

Sam

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-----Original Message-----
From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 7:32 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Another CFML app server...

Michael Dinowitz wrote:

> They emailed me directly and we were going to talk. After some
investigation, I
> found at least one major problem with it. All CF code has to be on its
> own
line,
> one tag per line. I think that describes maybe 1 persons code in all
> the community.

ReplaceNoCase(template, "<cf","#chr(13)##chr(10)#<cf","All")

> I'll interview them but they don't 'feel' like something terribly big.

Neither did NewAtlanta two years ago.

Jochem
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