vibe going, but everyday that passes that I can't get my hands on it,
I'm less and less motivated to embrace it.
Adam Wayne Lehman
Web Systems Developer
Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health
Distance Education Division
-----Original Message-----
From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 1:36 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: OT Flex beta
1. Flex will be a big cost, enterprise only thing out of the reach of
the
standard developer (a la Breeze)
I've heard that too, but I am not worried yet - price really has not
been finalized. The Enterprise market is definitely a target for Flex,
and thus the perceptions and concerns. At MAX I heard Libby tell someone
who voiced price concerns "we have not forgotten where we came from",
which to me means that it will not be priced like IBM WebSphere and BEA
WebLogic. But, again, it has to be finalized and announced.
2. The Flex beta support team is a small one
It's smallish for now, starting small and gradually growing (much like
we've done with CF beta programs in the past).
3. That X people were rejected and it doesn't seem like they're
accepting people
who would really help make it a real programming product.
I don't know the selection criteria, but I have seen the list (or part
of it), and lots of the names that you'd expect are indeed on it, they
just can't tell you so. :-)
I'll post more when I have more to say.
--- Ben
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 10:46 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: OT Flex beta
That makes me feel better. All I've been hearing from people till it was
brought
up was rejections.
As for what I'm hearing from people, here are a few:
1. Flex will be a big cost, enterprise only thing out of the reach of
the
standard developer (a la Breeze)
2. The Flex beta support team is a small one
3. That X people were rejected and it doesn't seem like they're
accepting people
who would really help make it a real programming product.
There are other concerns that I've heard from fewer people that are sure
to come
out but those are some of the top.
> Michael,
>
> Actually, I just looked at the list of current beta members are there
> are quite a few CFers there, so if you "need to know that at least one
> CF programmer is in on this project", yes, there is. The beta for now
is
> a small group, and proportionally CF is very well represented (by both
> CF users and organizations that are heavy CF users). Less then 10% of
> the beta applications have been accepted at this point, but I
understand
> that it will gradually be opened up to more and more people.
>
> As for the "some of the fears I've been hearing from people" that you
> seek to allay, do you care to be more specific?
>
> --- Ben
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2003 10:58 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: OT Flex beta
>
>
> If anyone in the ColdFusion community has been accepted to the Flex
beta
> program, could you please join the HoF Flex mailing list and just say
> hi. I just
> want to know that someone in the community has been accepted. Everyone
> I've
> talked to, including some of the top names in the community, has been
> rejected.
> I just need to know that at least one CF programmer is in on this
> project. It'll
> also go far in allaying some of the fears I've been hearing from
people.
> Thanks
>
> P.S. Please respond on the Flex list. Thanks
>
> --
> Michael Dinowitz
> Finding technical solutions to the problems you didn't know you had
yet
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>
>
>
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