Bingo Sam!!

Yep...just wanna kick the baddies

Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
t. 250.920.8830
e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Samuel R. Neff
  To: CF-Talk
  Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 3:58 PM
  Subject: RE: browser detection script

  That's fine for JS but I think the question here was about layout of HTML
  and CSS support.  You can't use JS to tell if a browser supports the
  HTML/CSS you're using without browser sniffing.

  But I think the only real concern is NN4 or not NN4.  NN4 is the only old
  browser we encounter on a regular basis since for some reason people still
  install it on new PCs.  Most new browsers are consistent enough to not need
  to browser sniff.

  Sam

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  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  > Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 6:36 PM
  > To: CF-Talk
  > Subject: Re: browser detection script
  >
  > what Jochem is suggesting is testing for the capability of
  > any browser to be
  > able to correctly render your code.
  >
  > back in the day, when rollover scripts were the 'big thing', not all
  > browsers supported images as objects.  instead of testing for
  > each browser,
  > the standard test was:
  >
  > if (document.images)
  >
  > based on that conditional, any browser that supported the
  > image object would
  > support your rollovers.
  >
  > I don't do too much DHTML, so I'm really not sure what kind of object
  > detection you'd need to do today (nor do I know specifically what
  > functionality you're going for).
  >
  > look at the source for some DHTML menus.  You'll see things like:
  >
  > if (document.all)
  >
  > or
  >
  > if (document.layers)
  >
  > I know this doesn't completely answer your question...but
  > hopefully it'll be
  > enough to give you a head start.
  >
  > Charlie
  >
  > ----- Original Message -----
  > From: "Bryan Stevenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  > Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 3:07 PM
  > Subject: Re: browser detection script
  >
  > > Thanks Jochem....but how do I test if a browser will render
  > the site as
  > intended (i.e. in NS 4 this site looks WAY off the intended look).
  > >
  > > Mabye I can simplify this with a little help from CF-Talkers...
  > >
  > > CGI.USER_AGENT spits out something like so:
  > > Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1)
  > >
  > > If someone can tell me what IE 4/5/6 and Netscape 4/6/7
  > would spit out
  > then I can whip this puppy up in a few minutes (I'm sure it's
  > just looking
  > at the part in brakets for "MSIE" etc....but I know there are
  > some odd ones.
  > >
  > > Even better would be if someone has a list of what
  > IE/Netscape/Gecko/Safari/Opera would spit out ;-)
  > >
  > > Cheers
  > >
  > > Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
  > > VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
  > > Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
  > > t. 250.920.8830
  > > e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  > > Macromedia Associate Partner
  > > www.macromedia.com
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  > > Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group
  > > Founder & Director
  > > www.cfug-vancouverisland.com
  > >   ----- Original Message -----
  > >   From: Jochem van Dieten
  > >   To: CF-Talk
  > >   Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 2:49 PM
  > >   Subject: Re: browser detection script
  > >
  > >
  > >   Bryan Stevenson wrote:
  > >   >
  > >   > Does anybody have a rock solid _javascript_ script for browser
  > detection? or a
  > >   > CF code snippet?
  > >   >
  > >   > I'm under the gun and don't really want to re-invent
  > the wheel using
  > this
  > >   > script (it's kind of overkill....but very good):
  > >   > http://webreference.com/tools/browser/_javascript_.html
  > >   >
  > >   > I'm not after anything fancy....just accurate ;-)  I
  > essentially want
  > to
  > >   > redirect those with browser we won't be supporting.
  > >
  > >   The best way to do so is to test if the browser has the required
  > >   functionality, not to test for browser name (changes), version
  > >   (changes even faster) or security settings.
  > >
  > >   Jochem
  > >
  > >   --
  > >   I don't get it
  > >   immigrants don't work
  > >   and steal our jobs
  > >        - Loesje
  > >
  > >
  > >
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