Many thanks to all that pitched in their 2 cents ;-)

After rolling back the updates from yesterday while in safe mode and then rebooting normally IT'S ALIVE!!

So I think I'll leave it for now and try the updates again later when I actually have the time to deal with this kind of....*insert long list of bad words here*

Have a great weekend!

Cheers

Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
t. 250.920.8830
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  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Bryan Stevenson
  To: CF-Talk
  Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 12:57 PM
  Subject: Re: Latest Windows Updates

  DOH!  thanks Doug...been going in circles following advice...forgetting what I already know..hehe

  Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
  VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
  Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
  t. 250.920.8830
  e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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    ----- Original Message -----
    From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
    To: CF-Talk
    Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 12:05 PM
    Subject: RE: Latest Windows Updates

    prob better to use the services panel to do this.  

    Doug

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Turetsky, Seth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
    Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 2:52 PM
    To: CF-Talk
    Subject: RE: Latest Windows Updates

    So, you are trying to stop McAffee?  I would think you could remove it from
    the registry(in the Run area) then reboot, right?

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
    Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 2:44 PM
    To: CF-Talk
    Subject: Re: Latest Windows Updates

    Arrrrghhhhh.....I try and end processes running under the "System" username
    and all I get is access denied!!!  I'm in as the Administrator!!!

    It's just getting worse....now CPU is done to 2-4% but anything I try and run
    says "can't be done...not enough resources" and RAM is in good shape!!!

    If I could just get Add/Remove Programs to run I could uninstal the updates
    from yesterday...but NOOOooOOoo

    Oh well.....time to go find a nice quiet place to shoot myself ;-)

    Cheers

    Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
    VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
    Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
    t. 250.920.8830
    e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Doug White
      To: CF-Talk
      Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 11:27 AM
      Subject: Re: Latest Windows Updates

      Yes, As I understand, McAffee still uses a 16 bit scanning engine - and as a
      result really slows down some system.  So much so, that it has caused many
    to
      abandon the product for a more efficient one.

      Don't hold me to this, as I abandoned McAffee back in the Win98SE days for
    that
      reason

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        ----- Original Message -----
        From: Bryan Stevenson
        To: CF-Talk
        Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 11:47 AM
        Subject: Re: Latest Windows Updates

        Oh ya Doug...

        Isn't F-PROT to do with virus scanning??  I've seen an alert about McAfee
      mabye not having all of the right stuff installed....guess that might be
    that
      bad guy??

        Cheers

        Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
        VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
        Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
        t. 250.920.8830
        e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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          ----- Original Message -----
          From: Doug White
          To: CF-Talk
          Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 9:32 AM
          Subject: Re: Latest Windows Updates

          A place to start:

          Start looking for 16 bit versions of applications that are running.
    Such as
      A/V
          scanners, software firewalls, etc.    Most running processes are running
      under a
          system account, so it is time consuming to isolate the offending
      application.

          Next try disabling processes running under "system"  one at a time with
    the
      CPU
          monitor running and observe which one(s) make a big difference.
    Sometimes a
          re-install of that particular application will do the trick, but most
    will
          require upgrading to a 32 bit version of the process.

          In my case, I had to update the F-PROT scan engine to a 32 bit version
    and
      that
          solved the runaway issue.

          Good luck!

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            ----- Original Message -----
            From: Bryan Stevenson
            To: CF-Talk
            Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 10:35 AM
            Subject: SOT: Latest Windows Updates

            Hey All,

            We applied the latest round or about 5 security updates to our Win2K
            Advanced Server yesterday and then all hell broke loose.

            It now takes about 10-15 minutes to get to the desktop, then another
    15 or
            so before SQL Server and a few other services get running....CF
    service
            never started in that time so I went in and set it to a manual start
      (trying
            to free up resources).

            Basically, the "System" process (not System Idle Process) is taking up
    all
            the CPU time...occasionally letting go for a few seconds.

            Being that the system moves SO slow it's tough to check things to try
    and
            diagnose...so I'm here asking for help ;-)

            Any..and I do mean ANY advice would be great

            TIA

            Cheers

            Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
            VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
            Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
            t. 250.920.8830
            e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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