that's not Hal Helms is it?
-mk
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From: Ken Ferguson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 1:45 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: RAD (was RE: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...)
I know you're half-kidding here, but you're not too far off of what
people who make these things would just LOVE to do.
If you find an editor like this, please let me know so that I can AVOID
IT LIKE THE PLAGUE! The worst thing about all these WYSIWYG's and new
IDEs is that they won't just get out of the way. I always think that if
I type something - that's what I wanted to type. The reason I like CF
Studio and Homesite is that they have the handy little code completion
things that drop down and you can hit enter or keep typing without them
slowing you down or changing stuff without you. But I get so sick of all
of this over-automation.
I think I might sound like an old man here, but I can easily picture
this product coming out, installing it and then screaming at the top of
my lungs because it won't leave me alone.
ME: Don't change that code please.
HAL: I'm going to change it Ken.
ME: Please Hal, I want it that way.
HAL: I'm going to change it Ken.
ME: Hal, I want it written that way!
HAL: I was developed to be your superior. I'll make the decisions on
what code gets written and where.
ME: If you touch that F*%KING code Hal, I'm going to rip out your power
cord.
HAL: If you touch my power cord, I'll format the hard-drive, Ken.
ME...
HAL...
ME...
You see what I mean? We'd all end up smashing our computers with large
sledgehammers and moving to Idaho to live in the woods.
Who was it that suggested a felt-tip pen...? I think that was the best
idea so far.
Ferg
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From: Robert Munn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 11:47 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: RAD (was RE: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...)
>So the question isn't whether or not to have tools, but what sort of
tools
>will they be?
Personally I'd like a tool that can "fill in the blanks" on simple
coding tasks. Templates and wizards help to some extent, but I'd like
something smart enough to go back and fix my mistakes, add missing
parameters, that sort of thing.
For instance, I wrote a little function on the list not to long ago, and
I used _javascript_ notation for a loop in cfscript. I want an editor that
is smart enough to not only tell me that's wrong but to suggest changes
or even fix code automatically and highlight the changes. This is
functionally no different than a spelling and grammar checker in a word
processor.
Of course, what I'd really like is an editor that wrote code for me so I
could tell it what I want and have it produce all the code. It should
understand my voice over the cellphone- that way I can spend more time
at the beach. ;-) OK, maybe that's a little tongue in cheek but
ultimately I don't see why not.
In fact, once a system becomes that sophisticated you can just cut out
the editor completely and talk directly to the application server. You
can call your CF application server using VoIP and just tell it what you
want it to build. Voice could be augmented by other forms of input-
text, binary file input. CF Server Enterprise, Voice-Enabled Edition.
Now that's RAD.
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