> brush up on the types of problems this particular pattern tries to
> solve.
You might be mis-understanding my comments on MVC's. Eventhough
MVC's do NOT address these problems directly, they can be built to
identify/solve common problems/tasks.
e.g. I dont know of any MVC's that provide a Security Module by default.
Take a look at SAP R3 Dispatcher Engine Architecture.
> large-scale applications. Many of these books are hiding under the
> categories of "Patterns" or "Software Engineering".
Yes, they are. Thanks for tip, i was looking under "Jokes" ;)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Kenney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: MAX 2004 (MVC's Session)
> Joe,
>
> First, you aren't going to find anything that shows you how to do any
> of these things using MVC. The reason for this is that these types of
> solutions general are the realm of the model. It seems that you are
> incorrectly using the term MVC and I would recommend that you go and
> brush up on the types of problems this particular pattern tries to
> solve.
>
> It is true that you will not find much domain specific guides on the
> architecture of different types of applications. There is a lot of
> general and more useful information about how to design and build
> large-scale applications. Many of these books are hiding under the
> categories of "Patterns" or "Software Engineering". If you want a
> list of books, I and others would be glad to help you out.
>
> On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 11:45:27 -0400, Joe Eugene <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> > > or online? There's plenty of material out there covering large scale
> > > applications (just none for ColdFusion, of course - that's why you
> > > need to read a broad spectrum of stuff and then apply it to your own
> > > work).
> >
> > Most of the material you find online/books targets towards "A" SMALL
Module.
> > e.g. Security, Shopping, Order Tracking etc.
> >
> > The above does NOT necessarily help you build large modules that tightly
> > intergrate with one another.
> >
> > e.g.
> > How can you apply an MVC to build modules like the below?.
> >
> > - Finance
> > - Sales and Distribution
> > - Order Managment
> > - Sales Commissions
> > - Inventory Control
> > - Logistics
> >
> > Large Corporations normally buy ERP Packages to fulfill alot of above
but
> > still have
> > Web Application Extensions. If you ignore the Basic Framework and build
> > independent
> > applications around the ERP, you end up with "Disparate Systems".
> >
> > So does it make sense to extend the modules of the ERP System?
> > If so how can you relate the modules to reusable components?
> > What can you categorize as Service VS Product?
> > Where do adminstrative functions fit in the picture?
> > How does Reporting fit in these modules? (Independent Reporting?)
> > How can you tie all this up into MVC's?
> >
> > The has been alot of discussions on MVC's and Programming related topics
to
> > specific problems
> > but i havent seen any discussions on the Big Picture of solving
Enterprise
> > Problems.
> >
> > I think a session on the above topics and problems developers have faced
in
> > these areas
> > and any possible solutions might go a long way in helping alot of us
Design
> > Applications.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Joe Eugene
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Sean Corfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 10:47 AM
> > Subject: Re: MAX 2004 (MVC's Session)
> >
> > > > Yes, there is are a TON of other research papers out there
> > > > but nothing really that you could use to model Large Applications.
> > >
> > > Sure there is - where are you really looking? You're local book store
> > > or online? There's plenty of material out there covering large scale
> > > applications (just none for ColdFusion, of course - that's why you
> > > need to read a broad spectrum of stuff and then apply it to your own
> > > work).
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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