> Whoa Matt, I was half-kidding. Like I said, they're still looking for a
> guy who can do the job right. Why should people believe that Jobs
> wasn't
> the guy then, but he is now and if he decides again that he's not,
> what
> nut will they go out and find next...? It's fairly comical.
I was very involved with Apple at the time Jobs left -- I thought it
was the best thing that had ever happened at Apple.
The other best thing was when he returned several years later.
In the intervening years Apple stagnated, likely from lack of
vision/confidence of top management.
Apple's initial visionary management team (Mike Markula, Mike Scott,
Gene Carter, Will Houd, etc. were no longer active). Woz was gone (in
and out) so there was no longer any driving technical force.
Apple was going off in several directions, false starts, actually,
trying to build a new OS and the world's ugliest and heaviest laptops.
Meanwhile, Steve, Bought Pixar, and created Next -- both pioneering
firms. Next built a new computer and a new OS as well as a very good
IDE. -- In fact the www was developed on a Next box (the www, not the
Internet). Next was successful & so was Pixar.
Steve matured, honed his management skills, and maintained his vision.
When he sold Next to Apple and came back as Amelio's assistant -- he
was exactly what was needed -- and Apple got a modern OS in the deal
too.
If Steve is a nut, then most of his industry peers are squirrels!
> My point isn't really to say that I think they're going to go out of
> business or anything silly like that, but to suggest that people see
> the
> company as sort of a cartoon. They look at it (right or wrong) as some
> little kid who keeps trying to compete with the bigger kids.
That little kid is in his early 50s -- he is a self made millionaire,
several times over, and has led several successful companies -- and he
brought Apple back from the brink.
I'd say, based on his track record, he competes just fine.
Remember, Apples rebirth occurred during some pretty lean years for
Silicon Valley and the computer industry. Where are the Compacs, the
Digital equipments, etc.
> On the
> whole though, I don't think they're taken very seriously-especially by
> businesses. I believe, once again whether it's correct or not, that
> most
> people just see them as big powerful Etch-a-scetches and I don't think
> they've done much if anything to change that view.
>
You need to get out more-- the worlds 3rd fastest computer was not
built by little children playing with toys.
Dick
> -Ferg
>
> ��_____��
>
> From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 4:19 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: VMWare was Re: Best choice for ColdFusion Studio IDE...
>
> > The thing is, as I see it, they've tried over and over again and one
> day
> > they're going to succeed at running that company completely into the
> > ground. They're still on the lookout for that guy who can do the job
> > right! Jobs, Sculley, Spindler, Amelio, and back to Jobs after
> Anderson
> > had a cup of coffee... Nobody argues that they make, at very least,
> > competitive technology, but nobody should be able to argue that the
> > company as a whole is consistently one of the most mismanaged in the
> > world. I'd never go that direction because I'm scared that one day
> they
> > will finally succeed and go bankrupt. :-)
> >
> You're worried they are one day going to be bankrupt? This is a
> company
> will
> billions in cash, no debt, and profitable. I only wish I could
> mismanage
> my
> company so well.
>
> -Matt
>
[Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
