OK, I expected a bit too much from Val :), needed to get all the digits portion of a VAR.  Thanks for everyone's input and time.

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>No, it isn't - at least not mathematically.  In math you use significant
>digits only - meaning, basically, only those digits that would affect the
>outcome in an operation.  Since "20 + 1 = 21" and "020 + 1 = 21" the leading
>zero in the section operation is "insignificant" - it doesn't matter to the
>math.  So it's not considered part of the number.
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>This is a really simple explanation and a really bad explanation of
>"significant digit" which means something different in science.  In more
>precise terms significant digits are only those that contain value, not
>those used just as place holders.  In this way the number 60000, for
>example, has only one significant digit - the digit "6" - the three zeros,
>while important, don't contain any value and are just used to force the only
>significant digit into the proper place.
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>Another, perhaps easier, way to consider this is the way numbers are written
>in scientific notation.  When you write "60000" you've got a number, but
>information is missing as to purpose of the zeros - are they just there to
>push the 6 into place or were they measured?  In this case you have to
>assume that they're insignificant.
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>But if we write 6*10^4 then that shows us that 6 is the only significant
>digit.  But you can also write 6.000*10^4 then that indicates that three of
>the zeros are indeed significant (usually that they were specifically
>measured) - however it also means that one is not.  This happens a lot with
>measurements.
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>Let's say I have a radar gun that could measure speed in 10 mph increments.
>When I clock a car doing "50mph" I know that the speed is at least 50mph but
>not more than 60mph.  So the number "50" in this case has only significant
>digit: the 5 (since the zero is needed to "push" the 5 over, but was not
>measured itself).  So in scientific notation you'd write "5*10^1" (well, I
>think - my scientific notation is rusty).
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>But now a friend comes along and his radar gun measures in 1mph increments -
>when he clock's a car doing "50mph" he knows that the speed is at least
>50mph bot not more than 51mph.  In this case the number "50" has two
>significant digits (since both digits were measured).  You'd write
>"5.0*10^1" is scientific notation to indicate that the zero is indeed needed
>and significant.
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>Now one of the most fundamental rules of determining significance (so
>fundamental that it's often not even mentioned) is that any zeros to the
>left of the last significant digit or decimal point are insignificant.  They
>are doubly damned since they 1) don't change the value of the number and 2)
>can't EVER be measured (how would you specifically measure the zero in
>"021"?)
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>CF is doing the right thing here since val() is a numeric function.
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>Jim Davis
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