Thanks Rob,

I'll check out your app.

> I don't know about win sockets, but I've done a chat app with cfc's,
> _javascript_ and web services on the HTML side, and then connected to
> the web services using a standalone java application - meaning you
> could chat on line or with the standalone app.

> What do you mean by "use a database and constantly refresh" - where
> are the conversations to be stored and how is the data going to get
> from one application to another? I suppose I can see the no database,
> but some app somewhere is going to have to either broadcast new
> messages or refresh to get new messages - I think.

An HTML based app in CF, would have to do meta-refreshes for the chat screens to be up-to-date and live.
A Flash-based or Java based app, I believe, would not have to do meta-refereshes, those applications would be using some other method to make the chat up-to-date.  In addition, those apps could probably use xml files rather than connect to a database.

If you know of any apps like that, please let me know.
>
> btw here is the online one that uses web services:
>
> http://www.rohanclan.com/products/neuromancer/chatdemo2.cfm
>
> --
> ~The cfml plug-in for eclipse~
> http://cfeclipse.tigris.org
> ~open source xslt IDE~
> http://treebeard.sourceforge.net
> ~open source XML database~
> http://ashpool.sourceforge.
net

Thanks,
Ali
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