> > There have been rumors that Apple has an OS X that runs on Intel
> CPUs.
> >
> > ...
> >
> > OS X Sells for $99 whereas a winXp upgrade sells for upgrade for
> $249.
> >
> > ...
> >
> > OS X comes With all the 'Nix goodness, XWindows, + Java, Perl, PHP,
> > Apache, etc.
> >
> > What would be the acceptance if Apple released OS X Tiger on Intel,
> > Solaris, etc. Say 1Q 2005?
> >
> > Could Apple grab the Linux/Unix desktop?
> >
> > Could Apple make a dent in the windows desktop?
> >
> > Is this the time and place?
> >
> > Should they?
>
> Apple would never do this, because they're a hardware company, not a
> software company. They sell an experience, rather than a commodity. To
> deliver that experience, they need to control the hardware.
Yes, with a little different emphasis -- they (Apple) are an experience
company that sells the bundle (hardware and software) that delivers the
desired experience
I am no expert, but I suspect that the typical PC comes with reasonably
standard hardware that could deliver a "pretty good" experience on any
current hardware -- maybe not as good as an integrated hw/sw solution,
but close enough.
>
> OS X sells for less than Windows XP because of this. Apple makes
> their money
> selling G4s and G5s; OS X upgrade sales are just icing on the cake.
Lot of truth to that, but I think that the OS is a profit center -- so,
with an exponentially greater target market (Intel) I think they
should be able to make $ -- it would be fun to run the numbers -- how
about OS X Intel for $49?
>
> If they were, theoretically, going to do this, they'd have to partner
> with a
> hardware vendor, like HP, because most people don't install operating
> systems - they just use whatever the computer comes with.
They have already partnered with HP on the iPod -- Page Mill Road in
Palo Alto is 7 miles from Infinite Loop in Cupertino -- they prolly
could get together at a Marie Calendar's
Also, there is this rather strange relationship between Apple and IBM
(my alma mater) -- who knows what a link-up could do for them both
(remember what it meant to a little company that sold BASIC on paper
tape).
>
> I suspect that Apple has largely already captured the "Unix desktop",
> to the
> degree that it exists as a significant factor in the market.
>
I think you are right about that -- but it is not portrayed as
significant.
I have little experience with Linux/Unix except that you immediately
reduce to the the CLI.
Even the 'Nix GUIs are mostly (be gentle with me) a GUI for the CLI
> As for the "'Nix goodness", you can download all the stuff you listed
> for
> any platform you like, so I suspect that having it already installed
> is not
> really compelling for the sort of people who use that stuff (us).
Yes , No (mas 0 menos). This is a part of the Apple (OS X) mystique
-- you have (almost) everything you need.
The JVM (Apache, Perl,PHP, etc) is already there -- you just need to
download (CFMX, whatever), do a simple install/deploy and you are ready
to roll.
For example, Blue dragon is:
1) Download
2) Unzip ( usually performed by the browser directives)
3) Copy
And, it works
(CFMX & JRun have a few extra steps, but they are easy too)
> The GUI
> and the BSD core itself, of course, is pretty compelling.
Yes, It is!
That said, is this something that could be, should be done?
Dick
>
> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> http://www.figleaf.com/
> phone: 202-797-5496
> fax: 202-797-5444
>
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