>>I remember my
first java class in college back in like, 97 or so, and when they were
talking about how Java didn't have pointers, the whole class broke out into
applause...

I do not think a bunch of students is competent to judge if something can be good or not.
Take the same class, tell them they will study a new version of English language in which
grammar has been abolished, and they will probabily all applause. This doesn't prove grammar is bad or useless in a language.

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