danke simon. good points about using CF as the pres layer. i might be doing some websphere development, someone here called it the M1 Abrahms of app servers, lol. With that cost, hard to convince them to put CF on the box as well. we shall see.
mark, ok strutts. strutts is a framework, like machii is, correct? i have been messing with machii lately. a RAD framework? hmmmm.....now i suppose one mans RAD is another mans SAD, slow app developent. considering what simon mentioned, that Java/JSP/J2EE projects tend to be more complex, we can see RAD mean something different, eh? kewl...thanks for the tidbits. Doug On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 05:39:56 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've been working a lot on CF/Java hybrids... to be honest, I don't end-up > using JSP much. In the J2EE world, JSP is primarily a presentation tier > construct... ColdFusion is much better suited for the presentation tier. Java > Beans, EJBs, simple classes, and sometimes servlets, are often times a good > place for logic (it depends on your needs). I've used CFML for the presentation > tier in STRUTS based java applications - if your java applications are using > STRUTS then that's an option. > The best good use for JSPs I've found hasn't been a use of JSPs themselves, but > of JSP tags. JSP tags are easily imported for use in CFML pages with the > CFIMPORT tag, and they can be a good place to put simple shared functionality > that's better written in Java than CFML and are also sometimes a good way to > provide a "friendlier" interface to your EJBs and other Java bits. > Regarding your question about whether or not you could work on 6-10 projects in > a year if you're doing Java work - if it's JSP development then that's > certainly feasible... it's not impossible if you're doing more serious Java > development, but I'd say it's not as common due to the fact that those > applications are typically more complex. It really all depends on what you're > doing. > > ~Simon > > > > > > Do you mean Strutts ? > > > > > > On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 15:44:34 -0400, Douglas Knudsen > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > maybe a cf-community thing....but.... > > > wanting to move to JSP stuffs, anyone out there move to JSP stuffs > > > from the CF world? Is there really such a thing as RAD in the > > > Java/JSP world? I'm used to being on like 6 to 10 projects in a given > > > year, can this happen in the JSP world? Anyone out htere blending the > > > two, JSP and CF? > > > > > > -- > > > Douglas Knudsen > > > http://www.cubicleman.com > > > this is my signature, like it? > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Purchase from House of Fusion, a Macromedia Authorized Affiliate and support the CF community. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=34 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:181823 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
