Well I work for the largest burea in the Dept of State. About 3 years ago they made a major shift to make Java/Oracle/CF the standard. Currently we have one java application (been in production for about 3 years) and 10+ CF applications. I'm not sure what you consider an Enterprise application server, but i've got cf applications which on average have about 500 concurrent users across muliple clusters. I can't really get into the semantics of our apps, but they define the phrase 'mission critical'. Assuming CF is not an enterprise application server is just iggnorant.
Now in perspective, the java guys have spent nearly 3 years trying to implement what took us less than 6 months to do with cf. Short and simple, we've got a backlog of applications that need to be built, none are planned for jsp. I think the director of our division put it best when he said 'cf wasn't a realy app server until cfmx'. The people who think its not an app server today either haven't looked since CFMX, or are MCSEs. -Adam On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 17:04:04 -0400, Rey Bango <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sean, > > I definitely agree with you that Blackstone's features (even CFMX's feature > set as well ) make it a very sophisticated server. No question about that. > Having been a past member of Team Allaire (before the MM acquisition) and a > CF instructor, I've been fortunate to have been involved in the early stages > of many CF iterations and BlackStone will be a monumental leap forward. > > That doesn't mitigate the fact that perception counts more for sales than > feature set does. Microsoft has proven that over and over. CF has never > truly been accepted as an Enterprise application server because of it's RAD > legacy. It's viewed as a toy. I've had this debate over and over with so > many people. Even people that were being sent to ColdFusion classes would > have this debate with me until I sat them down and gave them a rundown of > what was under the hood. > > In my area (South Florida), adoption of ColdFusion is almost nil. It was > once a big player (especially during the dotcom craze) but has since fallen > out of favor. I've heard on more than one occasion from middle managers and > executive management staffers (CTOs, VPs of IT, et al) that they would > choose PHP or ASP.Net over ColdFusion because of the cost. Perhaps it's > limited to my area or perhaps Macromedia's sales presence is just abysmal > here. I don't know but I do know that it's a sad state of affairs for those > who are trying to find ColdFusion opportunities in this area. > > It doesn't thrill me to have to look at alternatives. After so many years of > CF development, I still love to code in CFML. It's straightforward and > works. I just have to be pragmatic and for the area that *I* live in, CF > doesn't seem to have a bright future. > > Rey... > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Purchase from House of Fusion, a Macromedia Authorized Affiliate and support the CF community. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=36 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:182099 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
