[quote]I think the director of our division put it best when he said 'cf wasn't a realy app server until cfmx'. The people who think its not an app server today either haven't looked since CFMX, or are MCSEs.[/quote]
exactly! come on MM TELL THEM!!!! haha and while ur at it MM, can u make the extension manager better & also do something with the licencing nags so we can use dwmx 04 on linux with codeweaver :) ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: Adrocknaphobia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2004 19:03:55 -0400 >Well I work for the largest burea in the Dept of State. About 3 years >ago they made a major shift to make Java/Oracle/CF the standard. >Currently we have one java application (been in production for about 3 >years) and 10+ CF applications. I'm not sure what you consider an >Enterprise application server, but i've got cf applications which on >average have about 500 concurrent users across muliple clusters. I >can't really get into the semantics of our apps, but they define the >phrase 'mission critical'. Assuming CF is not an enterprise >application server is just iggnorant. > >Now in perspective, the java guys have spent nearly 3 years trying to >implement what took us less than 6 months to do with cf. Short and >simple, we've got a backlog of applications that need to be built, >none are planned for jsp. > >I think the director of our division put it best when he said 'cf >wasn't a realy app server until cfmx'. The people who think its not an >app server today either haven't looked since CFMX, or are MCSEs. > >-Adam > >On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 17:04:04 -0400, Rey Bango <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Sean, >> >> I definitely agree with you that Blackstone's features (even CFMX's feature >> set as well ) make it a very sophisticated server. No question about that. >> Having been a past member of Team Allaire (before the MM acquisition) and a >> CF instructor, I've been fortunate to have been involved in the early stages >> of many CF iterations and BlackStone will be a monumental leap forward. >> >> That doesn't mitigate the fact that perception counts more for sales than >> feature set does. Microsoft has proven that over and over. CF has never >> truly been accepted as an Enterprise application server because of it's RAD >> legacy. It's viewed as a toy. I've had this debate over and over with so >> many people. Even people that were being sent to ColdFusion classes would >> have this debate with me until I sat them down and gave them a rundown of >> what was under the hood. >> >> In my area (South Florida), adoption of ColdFusion is almost nil. It was >> once a big player (especially during the dotcom craze) but has since fallen >> out of favor. I've heard on more than one occasion from middle managers and >> executive management staffers (CTOs, VPs of IT, et al) that they would >> choose PHP or ASP.Net over ColdFusion because of the cost. Perhaps it's >> limited to my area or perhaps Macromedia's sales presence is just abysmal >> here. I don't know but I do know that it's a sad state of affairs for those >> who are trying to find ColdFusion opportunities in this area. >> >> It doesn't thrill me to have to look at alternatives. After so many years of >> CF development, I still love to code in CFML. It's straightforward and >> works. I just have to be pragmatic and for the area that *I* live in, CF >> doesn't seem to have a bright future. >> >> Rey... >> >> >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Purchase from House of Fusion, a Macromedia Authorized Affiliate and support the CF community. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=34 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:182104 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
