and i agree but a lot of ppl out there dont know what cfm can do and that is were MM should step in and show it.
like show how effecient cfcs and/or remoting kick ass over everything else or how u can run flex code in yer cfm pages but not php or net, U know? all these great new things are built right off of cfm but they have no idea cause really its not mentioned. I think some clever marketing could get it across very effectiviely. Just like when u watch the "on demand" videos at MM say for flash. Its very obvious that they push flash mx pro. They could do the same with cfm. Ex: they could say sure u can get our remoting for .net but we'd recommend cfm because of the quick dev time and here are some stats on performace, where u can clearly see the cfm advantage, blah blah blah. unfortuantely all ppl see is "free" but they fail to even acknowledge the rest of it. A perfect example is in my real estate dealings u can have 2 houses, say 1 is $100,000 and 1 is $125,000, basically the same house but which 1 are most likely too take? (hint: the 100k one cause its cheaper) but in reality u could add all the variables too each (taxes, insurance, hoa dues, etc) and the 125k one might actaully have a cheaper monthly payment. But ppl are so posseded with the word "free" or "less" or "cheaper" same as u i dont have a prob selling cfm, actually i pray that the other competitors are php, asp or dot net. Cause i know i will bury them, my worst fear is that it will be another cfm guy or gal. ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Paul Vernon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 01:33:44 +0100 >Maybe I'm missing the point here but is what you are talking about = really >for MM to show/do? I don't think so. > >I seriously think that if we as developers can't show off the = capabilities >of our tools of choice and can't substantiate the claims that are made = >about CF when the management as why CF over a free alternative then it=92s a >= bit of a poor show... > >I for one have never had a problem selling CF over PHP, ASP or any other >web-technology when I knew it was the right fit for the job and to be = fair >straight out of the box, it's the right fit in a hell of a lot more = >areanas than most of the other contenders be it a Pro or Enterprise >deployment. > >I have run CF installations since 1999 and have run systems that have = been >huge clustered affairs right down to a single box installation... I've = >found glitches yes show me a developer that has never had a glitch with any >language and its also fair to say that there are some things that CF = cant >do straight out of the box but c'mon, this again can be said about any = >language there is and that is why CF has the capability for CFX tags, cfcs, >udfs, custom tags, CORBA, and java capabilities built in.... IMHO CF is the >= most flexible choice when it comes to extensibility as the amount of ways >you = can do something is just obscene... > >I've taken CF into large international corporations whos IT departments = >have never heard of it let alone evaluated it and by the time I'm done = >showing them what we've already done and what we can do for them, they go >away = with a whole other set of options to think about and a TCO that is >generally = far less than some other development platforms there are around. > >At the end of the day though if you're in front of one of those penny >pinching CFO types that watches the pennies and spends the $/=A3 then = its >unlikely that you will get anything through the door that doesn't say = FREE >or $100,000 on the headline price tag.... Shame that it is.... Some = people >just don't know what value for money really is... > >Paul > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Purchase from House of Fusion, a Macromedia Authorized Affiliate and support the CF community. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=37 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:182121 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
