I agree that Macromedia does have a responsibility to present CF as an Enterprise solution and a "real" development platform, but also remember that the experience(s) companies have in dealing with CF developers and the quality of code we CF developers produce, also has a large impact on the perception people have about ColdFusion.
~Simon > > I think that touches on the issue, CF is often perceieved as the layman's development platform and not taken seriously (such as .NET or J2EE) by many decision makers. > > > It's MM's job to ensure that CF is taken seriously by folks at the right levels. > > > Is that the gist of what we feel would help us help them :P ? > > > - Calvin > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tim Laureska > Date: 10/20/04 8:56 pm > To: CF-Talk > Subj: RE: CF developer numbers > > Here, here Mike... Don't get me wrong, I love CF... it's what I use most > for the sites I build, however, marketing is not my forte nor do I have > the time to be an evangelist. I am a small shop web developer with > limited staff and my clients don't have a clue what CF, ASP, .Net or PHP > are. > > They only look at results (and costs - -I'm running up against much > cheaper php sites now)... but if some effort were put forth at marketing > to the laymen's level (public - small business owner - at least "Cold > Fusion" Name Recognition by MM), marketing locally would be easier and > accordingly CF presence would increase (or at least be known as an > option)... > > Small businesses represent a tremendous market to be had - I don't know > enough about MM's focus though > > IMHO > > Tim > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Kear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 8:19 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: CF developer numbers > > Ok then, lets hear some of the things that a single-person developer > working his heart out already to pay the bills can do to increase the > market for CF developers, without giving all those opportunities to > the other 136 people who responded to the same job. > > One that springs to mind is that we could stop developing and go > without income for a while to start sales activity, to get companies > to take on ColdFusion as their server of choice. I accept that. It's > pretty hard to be paying the bills as well as doing sales, when you're > basically a contractor, but I can see that SOMEONE has to do some > selling, and in a one person business, there's no doubt who that is. > > What else? > > Cheers > Mike Kear > Windsor, NSW, Australia > AFP Webworks > http://afpwebworks.com > .com,.net,.org domains from AUD$20/Year > > > > On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 00:58:12 +0100, Simon Horwith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > this thread's getting a bit off topic, but I'll give a brief response. > > > > I don't personally like hearing about how bad the market is in an > > area... I want to hear about what someone is doing about it. If > anyone > > would like suggestions about what they can do, I'll gladly give them a > > ton of them. > > If you frequently encounter companies or individuals with > misconceptions > > and/or inhibitions about ColdFusion, or there's a poor ColdFusion > market > > in your area, then you should do something about it. > > If you can't be bothered to do something about it then perhaps you're > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Purchase from House of Fusion, a Macromedia Authorized Affiliate and support the CF community. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=34 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:182158 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54

