This is the side-effect of how easy cf is to learn. There are thousands of retards out there giving us all a bad name. In the past few months i've interveiwed about 4-5 cf developers per week.. its gotten so bad that a standard question is 'what is an array'. Those are the people who make cf look like some small-business cheapo server. Calling themselves developers when they really just know html and cfquery.
So if you run into anyone and they say, 'my company couldn't afford fusebox' or 'we ran into licensing issues when we tried to use arrays', tell them they should check out .NET. -Adam On 21 Oct 2004 06:30:54 -0400, Calvin Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think that touches on the issue, CF is often perceieved as the layman's > development platform and not taken seriously (such as .NET or J2EE) by many decision > makers. > > It's MM's job to ensure that CF is taken seriously by folks at the right levels. > > Is that the gist of what we feel would help us help them :P ? > > - Calvin > > -----Original Message----- > From: Tim Laureska > Date: 10/20/04 8:56 pm > To: CF-Talk > Subj: RE: CF developer numbers > > Here, here Mike... Don't get me wrong, I love CF... it's what I use most > for the sites I build, however, marketing is not my forte nor do I have > the time to be an evangelist. I am a small shop web developer with > limited staff and my clients don't have a clue what CF, ASP, .Net or PHP > are. > > They only look at results (and costs - -I'm running up against much > cheaper php sites now)... but if some effort were put forth at marketing > to the laymen's level (public - small business owner - at least "Cold > Fusion" Name Recognition by MM), marketing locally would be easier and > accordingly CF presence would increase (or at least be known as an > option)... > > Small businesses represent a tremendous market to be had - I don't know > enough about MM's focus though > > IMHO > > Tim > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Kear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 8:19 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: CF developer numbers > > Ok then, lets hear some of the things that a single-person developer > working his heart out already to pay the bills can do to increase the > market for CF developers, without giving all those opportunities to > the other 136 people who responded to the same job. > > One that springs to mind is that we could stop developing and go > without income for a while to start sales activity, to get companies > to take on ColdFusion as their server of choice. I accept that. It's > pretty hard to be paying the bills as well as doing sales, when you're > basically a contractor, but I can see that SOMEONE has to do some > selling, and in a one person business, there's no doubt who that is. > > What else? > > Cheers > Mike Kear > Windsor, NSW, Australia > AFP Webworks > http://afpwebworks.com > .com,.net,.org domains from AUD$20/Year > > On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 00:58:12 +0100, Simon Horwith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > this thread's getting a bit off topic, but I'll give a brief response. > > > > I don't personally like hearing about how bad the market is in an > > area... I want to hear about what someone is doing about it. If > anyone > > would like suggestions about what they can do, I'll gladly give them a > > ton of them. > > If you frequently encounter companies or individuals with > misconceptions > > and/or inhibitions about ColdFusion, or there's a poor ColdFusion > market > > in your area, then you should do something about it. > > If you can't be bothered to do something about it then perhaps you're > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Sams Teach Yourself Regular Expressions in 10 Minutes by Ben Forta http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=40 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:182178 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
