I started to post to this thread last night, but got interrupted, Lotta' good stuff here!
One thing that I think would really contribute to the acceptance of CF is to make it pervasive and ubiquitous-- the same way MS does with IE and MM does with Flash. On OS X you get most of what you need to publish a web site pre-installed: 'Nix OS Apache web server PHP, Perl Python Java Missing is a database -- MySQL is easily available & is pre-installed on the Server version of OS X, as is JBoss There are loads of on-line examples & tutorials to get people started on (the wrong road, IMO) in writing PHP. What I would like to see is a free, fully-capable (any 5 concurrent IPs in session) Blackstone J2ee, come pre-installed on ****EVERY**** new computer. This would allow the beginner to get started down the correct path -- and eventually feed work to the professional CF developer. With publicly-discussed Blackstone features like Event gateway there are opportunities to use CFML to address a much broader range of applications -- from the simple, ad-hoc desktop app that a beginner whips out in an hour -- to sophisticated enterprise apps that require the capabilities of a J2ee environment -- and, incidentally, you can publish web sites too :) Dick On Oct 21, 2004, at 9:54 AM, Barney Boisvert wrote: > I thought CF Express was great, personally. I used it numerous times, > on everything from little one-off sites for clients who had a web > server in their office, but needed zero-cost app servers, to > kiosk-style apps on non-connected computers (just install CF right on > the machine). At least two of those clients came back and had more > "real" CF work done, and to support them we bought additional CF Pro > licenses to run their apps. And the rest have continued down the CF > path with us, though they can't be directly linked to more CF > purchase. > > How about free CF for certain applications, like Flex is now doing? > > cheers, > barneyb > > On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 09:15:21 -0400, Ben Forta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>> Take CF Standard, trim it down some more (no CFX, only >>>> Access and MySQL, maybe even single-threaded) and give it away. >> >> FWIW, we did that back in the CF4 era, it was called ColdFusion >> Express, and >> it did not really make a whole lot of difference in the grand scheme >> of >> things. >> >> The free developer's edition was a far more successful offering, and >> one >> that I wish we'd have had ever since day one. >> >> --- Ben > > -- > Barney Boisvert > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 360.319.6145 > http://www.barneyb.com/blog/ > > I currently have 2 GMail invites for the taking > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Purchase from House of Fusion, a Macromedia Authorized Affiliate and support the CF community. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=37 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:182236 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54

