> One thing that I think would really contribute to the > acceptance of CF is to make it pervasive and ubiquitous-- the > same way MS does with IE and MM does with Flash.
It's worth pointing out that IE and the Flash client are both free for end-users, and the business model behind both is to increase the sales of other, related products - the Windows OS and the Flash IDE respectively. > There are loads of on-line examples & tutorials to get people > started on (the wrong road, IMO) in writing PHP. Why is it the wrong road? Don't get me wrong, I like CF a lot. I prefer it to PHP. For that matter, I prefer almost anything to PHP. But that's largely a matter of personal choice. There are quite a few people who, having worked with both PHP and CF, prefer PHP. Again, in their cases, it's not necessarily because PHP is better - they just prefer it for various personal reasons. That said, there's no company behind PHP and all these examples and tutorials. They're just written by people who like and use PHP. If you feel there's an imbalance, the best way to address it is to write your own examples and tutorials. > What I would like to see is a free, fully-capable (any 5 > concurrent IPs in session) Blackstone J2ee, come > pre-installed on ****EVERY**** new computer. That would be just great. Another 200 MB of wasted disk space for 99% of computer users! > This would allow the beginner to get started down the correct > path -- and eventually feed work to the professional CF developer. I don't see how this works out. What makes you think that, if everyone else was a CF developer, you'd get more work? Sure, there'd probably be more work available to do in CF, but there'd also be more people who could do it! > With publicly-discussed Blackstone features like Event > gateway there are opportunities to use CFML to address a much > broader range of applications -- from the simple, ad-hoc > desktop app that a beginner whips out in an hour -- to > sophisticated enterprise apps that require the capabilities > of a J2ee environment -- and, incidentally, you can publish > web sites too :) I would argue that advocating the use of CF for desktop applications would get people started on the wrong road. Of course, that's just my opinion, but opinion is the primary thing that matters in these language wars - people like what they like. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ phone: 202-797-5496 fax: 202-797-5444 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=17 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:182345 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54

