I'd like to see some actual statistics backing up that claim. I hear people
use this argument all the time. "CF ultimately costs less because it's so
much easier to learn and faster to develop applications with." Well, this
is definitely not true all of the time, and given that there are so many
people out there who know VB (I think VB is still the most widely used
programming language in the U.S.), it's not that difficult to find an ASP
programmer, or to train someone who already knows VB.
I've worked with people that had 2+ years of CF programming experience, but
couldn't write good code to save their life. I've also worked with CF
programmers who had only been coding for four months, and were teaching me
new things. It really depends on aptitude. Some people are good
programmers and some aren't. If someone is going to learn CF in a week, I
think it would also take them a week to learn ASP. I'm guessing that there
will be very minimal differences in training costs.
Now, that said, I do like CF better, but it's not because the syntax is so
much easier or that the performance is so much better. It's because there
is so much built in functionality, and that functionality is very easy to
use. If, however, this added functionality doesn't work, why am I paying
$1200 for it? Not to mention that this ends up costing even more. Like,
now instead of having to hire programmers for one language (CF), I need more
programmers to write C++/VB for all the custom COM objects and CFX tags that
had to be written to basically duplicate the functionality that CF was
already supposed to have. Why wouldn't it be easier to just hire a VB
programmer who could be trained to write ASP? Then you have a developer who
can write COM objects in VB and write ASP, with very little additional
training cost. This argument gets even more compelling when you are already
developing on the Windows platform.
I am a huge supporter of CF, and I will continue to advocate the use of CF
over ASP for the time being, but when CF 5.0 releases, it better have a lot
of fixes in it, or I'll have to re-evaluate what language is my language of
choice for web development.
Byron
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 2:52 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: What I want in CF (was: Learning ASP)
> Well.... I can think of one REALLY good reason why ASP users might
> deal without nifty things like built in HTTP, etc. where CF users
> might insist on said functionality:
>
> Cost of ASP: $0.00
> Cost of ColdFusion: $1199.95 (From Necx.com)
If you compare the labor costs for training and development for entry-level
and mid-level CF developers vs ASP developers, that $1199, or the $3000+
that you'd pay for CF Enterprise Edition, will pay for itself in less than a
week, I suspect.
Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
voice: (202) 797-5496
fax: (202) 797-5444
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