me thinks its MACRs attempt to get into the enterprise market more. 
CF is now with its J2EE foundation, but CF is not fetching enterprise
price levels.  The big boys buy expensive toys whilst holding meetings
at the golf course, eh?  Maybe MACR can price a 'stand alone' Flex
version for developers and keep the J2EE version priced for the big
enterprise buyers, eh?  Looking at enterprise software, Flex is not
that expensive really.  I mean, take a gander at the cost of Websphere
or Lotus Domino or Seibel.

Doug



On Mon, 15 Nov 2004 08:14:09 -0500, Rick Faircloth
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From the looks of what's out there...
> 
> Flash MX 2004, Flash MX 2004 Professional, and Flex (for LARGE budgets),
> I'd say MM needs to go ahead and develop Flash MX 2004 Professional
> as a tool to do what Flex does and break it off from its Flash Animation
> moorings.
> It seems to be doing almost the same thing on the RIA / data connection
> side,
> which is the only part I'm interested in...
> 
> BUT, the price needs to be about $11,500 less.  I run my own server and
> don't
> want to have to host apps outside to develop for and run in Flex...
> 
> I'm sure it's just my ignorance, but why does CF cost *only* $1,200 as a
> server
> and language and Flex costs $12,000?!
> 
> What makes the Flex server for RIA apps and its development capabilities
> worth
> 10 times as much as Cold Fusion...I don't get it...How about selling Flex on
> a
> "per developer" basis...$500 per developer...so a sole developer, like
> myself,
> gets the business benefit from what one developer can develop...and a team
> of 24 developers pay $12,000 because they can, supposedly, develop 24 times
> better
> and faster and get 24 times the financial benefit.  Per developer license,
> instead of
> per processor...
> 
> Put in some sort of (no rock-throwing, please...I'm recovering from a torn
> rotator cuff / broken arm injury)
> "digital rights management" for installations on x number of machines or
> something...
> 
> 
> 
> Rick
> 
>     >  -----Original Message-----
>     >  From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>     >  Sent: Monday, November 15, 2004 7:48 AM
>     >  To: CF-Talk
>     >  Subject: Re: Blackstone to provide built-in "Flash Remoting" type
>     >  capabilities?
>     >
>     >
>     >  Rick Faircloth wrote:
>     >  >
>     >  > I just had a look at Flex and Flex "Explorer" demo...looks
>     >  intriguing.
>     >  > And the coding is pretty straight-forward.
>     >  >
>     >  > Any idea what kind of price Flex has (or will have?)
>     >
>     >  $12,000 is the list price I believe....
>     >
>     >  And, you'll still pretty much have to learn Actionscript if
>     >  you want to
>     >  really do anything.
>     >
>     >    - Rick
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