Touche ! When/if I can find the time to allocate some more resources to it I will do a trial run and see how much is broken - perhaps Christmas day when no customers are chasing for stuff :(
Last time I tried BD there was a lot and a few CF features I used just weren't in it - perhaps were a bit further down the line and these features are now in there - fingers crossed. Cheers Phil Martin -----Original Message----- From: Phil Cruz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 December 2004 17:08 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: "Licensing" a CF app I think your assumption to "re-spend the same amount of money" is a false one. I recommend you at least take the time to fire off an email to their sales to discuss your options (to manage upfront costs). I think you may be pleasantly surprised. As for BS, promises are well just promises. Until the final product is released we won't know what actually makes the cut and how it compares with expectations and/or competing offerings. Bottom line, the decision to use BD is not a simple one and can't be measured by any one metric, i.e costs of BD vs cost of CFMX. You have to account for time/resources to do conversion but you also have to factor in things like expanded market potential and how does that weigh in. In your case for example, it appears you're selling a CMS appliance. Since that must include a CFMX license and hardware that can't be cheap. How would your sales be affected if you could just sell the software thereby cutting the price of CFMX and hardware *and* also target both .NET customers as well as J2EE? Would that be worth the cost of conversion? As far as compatibility/conversion, I did a Mach-II app and it pretty much just worked with BD. My latest app I've been struggling with incompatibilities with BDs list functions and queries of queries as compared to BD. I've probably taken about a 5 day detour due to this. I made the decision to spend the time to convert because I think it will be better in the long run. -Phil > Thanks Vince - There's still one or two niggles - when you've paid so > much for CF and you then need to re-spend the same amount of money > again (OK, maybe not quite as much as MM charge) on what is > essentially the same tool (generalising a bit I know) I find that > difficult to do. > > I know we have the benefits of deployment etc. which is promised in > Blackstone anyway. But there must be a compelling reason to go through > the whole change process when the promised solution is on the way > anyway. > > If there's stuff I'm totally missing out on please tell me. Too much > work on at the moment means I can't see the wood for the trees. > > Cheers > > Martin. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vince Bonfanti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 30 November 2004 14:22 > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: "Licensing" a CF app > > I'm not sure that "re-writing a tonne of code" is what would be > required. > We've converted a number of fairly large applications (thousands of > pages) > to BlueDragon; the time doing so is usually measured in hours or days. > Often > it's only one or two tweaks that have to be made to get everything > running. > > Most BlueDragon customers approach this no differently than they would > an > upgrade from CF5 to CFMX, for example. That is, they don't expect > their CF5 > code to run perfectly "out of the box" on CFMX, and therefore don't > expect > the same from BlueDragon. Of course, just as for the CF5-to-CFMX > upgrade, > there has to be enough benefit to the BlueDragon upgrade to make it > worth > your effort. > > The first step (after reviewing the BlueDragon CFML Compatibility > Guide) is > to run the BlueDragon precompiler on your code base--this will flush > out > most of the incompatibilities. After that, it's a simple matter of > running > through your application to verify that everything works. > > We're happy to provide assistance if you're interested in making a go > of it. > > Vince Bonfanti > New Atlanta Communications, LLC > http://www.newatlanta.com > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Special thanks to the CF Community Suite Gold Sponsor - CFHosting.net http://www.cfhosting.net Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:186243 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
