Well, let me back up a bit.

1) The fact that CFLOGIN uses a cookie and NOT the session scope isn't
a bug. It's just wierd. To "tie" it, you have to write custom code. Go
to my blog and do a search for cflogin.

2) The security issue with CFLOGIN/Session HAS been posted to
Macromedia.... I'm mostly sure about it... but I don't believe a
formal bug exists in their system yet. I was working w/ Sarge on that
and I'll have to bug him about that. I -can- say his blog does mention
the bug in great detail.

This is not what he says, but my opinion - do not use CFLOGIN/Session.
Period. When it comes to security, you cannot be too anal. If you do
use CFLOGIN/Cookie, be sure to remember that it is not tied by default
to the session scope.


On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 08:46:20 +0100, Hugo Ahlenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ray,
> 
> I was't aware of these problems, can you elaborate a little bit on this?
> Just checked on livedocs, and no comments relating to this on the
> cflogin page...
> <http://livedocs.macromedia.com/coldfusion/6/CFML_Reference/Tags-pt169.h
> tm>
> 
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> |-----Original Message-----
> |From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> |Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 23:42
> |To: CF-Talk
> 
> 
> |Subject: Re: CFLOGIN
> |
> |I'm a bit proponent of CFLOGIN, however it is a bit tricky and
> |is, unfortuinately, broken now. I used to recommend it to
> |folks, and now I recommend against it. There is a bug (in the
> |process of being logged) that involves the session based
> |version of CFLOGIN that was introduced in CFMX 6.1. That means
> |only the Cookie version is safe. That being said, if you want
> |to tie CFLOGIN/Cookie to a session, it IS possible, just not
> |super simple.
> |
> |I _really_ like CFLOGIN, and I hope/assume the Session
> |security hole will be fixed in Blackstone.
> |
> |That probably doesn't help you much.
> |
> |
> |On Mon, 6 Dec 2004 15:01:12 -0700, Paul <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> |> I was developing CF apps well before they came up with their CFLOGIN
> |> scheme, and I still have yet to take time to investigate it much.
> |>
> |> Do you all make use of these built in authentication tags?
> |Are there
> |> shortcomings I should be aware of that negate any gains?  I'm
> |> intrigued by the ability to control access to CFC functions
> |using the
> |> ROLES attribute, but wary of trying a new authentication method when
> |> I'm comfortable in my ways.
> |>
> |> TIA
> |>
> |>
> |
> |
> 
> 

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