> how did i make your point? your point is stupid
> also i have been on the plum beta since the beggining so i know what 
> it can and cant do

Maybe they should take that notice off the site then? 
 
> if ur gunna come on here and say "oh with this app i can write faster 
> in .net that u can hand code in cfm" thats just dumb, if u need to 
> cheat to make u feel better then go ahead but i doubt anyone on here 
> will be fooled. u ever hear of "apples to apples?"

Go to www.wtomlinson.com , look at the portfolio, and tell me if I cheat or 
not. You remind me of this little nerd I met who told me I was cheating by 
using Dreamweaver. He coded EVERYthing in Notepad. So I asked him a simple 
question. "Did you drive to school today? Because if you drove and didn't walk, 
you cheated!"

 
> that tool u suggest doesnt seem to give u much creative control at 
> least plum will let u still be an individual and style it how u wish

You're illustrating your ignorance of the product here. It's simple. You design 
a page however you like. html, javascript, etc. You can make it look like 
cirque du soleil for all it cares. Then place xml controls wherever they should 
be on the page. Open it in Iron Speed and it converts everything to asp.net. 
Done! 
 

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