Ian,

I like this book for Web development:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1558606580/qid=1106425246/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/002-2345314-2646402?v=glance&s=books

It is called "Usability for the Web", but it is, as much as anything, a book 
about the process of building Web sites. It isn't focused on engineering, 
though, so you need a good book on engineering projects. How about this one:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1556159005/qid=1106424939/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/002-2345314-2646402?v=glance&s=books

It is called "Rapid Development". It was published in 1996 and is top rated 
software lifecycle book on Amazon.

The other thing you can look at generally is project management training. I 
recommend training rather than reading alone because it's all about the 
experience. I personally am not big on lots of formalized project management 
for smaller sized projects, but having a good understanding of the principles 
will help you assess your PM needs for a particular project. Even a small 
amount of project management is better than none.

I would be happy to continue the discussion offline if you like.

Rob

> Can anybody recommend any good resources on tried and true definitions 
> of the process?  That is where we are stuck at.  Our organization 
> lacks the experience of large software design so we have no real 
> process.  But we are getting more and more of it.  I've been tasked 
> with learning how this is done, and presenting it.  But I have little 
> idea where to start.
> 
> 
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> Ian Skinner
> Web Programmer
> BloodSource
> www.BloodSource.org
> Sacramento, CA
> 
> "C code. C code run. Run code run. Please!"
> - Cynthia Dunning
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> 
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
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> From: Robert Munn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Sent: Friday, January 21, 2005 1:30 PM
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> To: CF-Talk
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> Subject: Re: software lifecycle/project management tool/process
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> recommendations
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> I am a reluctant user of MS Project. All I can say is don't use it! 
> MS
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> Project is good for very large projects with lots of details and many
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> people, but it has several significant shortcomings, IMO.
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> 
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> - It is a desktop app. Why? And Project 2000 isn't even Web-enabled. 
> I
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> don't know about 2003, maybe it has improved in this area. To me, the
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> whole point  of using an app like Project is to automate the 
> management
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> of a project, and this system just doesn't cut it. There are plenty 
> of
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> Web-based Project imitators out there that do a compentent job.
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> 
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> - It is too rigid. Task chaining, timelines, all of that stuff is too
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> rigid, at least for me. I like more flexibility to add items and fill 
> in
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> details later. You can sort of do that with project, but it's a pain.
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> 
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> - Did I mention the lack of automation? My general issue with this 
> factor
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> is that you end up spending more time managing the project plan than
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> managing the project.
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> 
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> So what do I do instead? Mostly I use email and a whiteboard, and
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> periodic high-level status reports to track progress. I've been 
> meaning
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> to build myself a tool that fits my process for about three years now, 
> I
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> just haven't gotten around to it.
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> 
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> I recommend that you define your process before you pick a tool to 
> use
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> for the process. You may find that once you define the process you 
> want
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> to use for project management, the tool selection falls into place.
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> 
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> 
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> > We are looking to formalize our software development processes and 
> are
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> > looking for a tool/process that will help with the project 
> management
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> > and track the software development lifecycle.
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> >
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> > Does anyone have recommendations for either?
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> >
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> > Do folks use MS Project or another tool for project management?
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> >
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> > How about FLiP?  Anyone use it for development?
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> >
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> > As always freeware is great but it's necessary.
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> >
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> > Thanks,
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> >
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> > Bob
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> >
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