I am reposting this to change the subject line. On Feb 8, 2005, at 12:21 AM, dave wrote:
> and just to be clear, i'd say a most� php users arent building > enterprise apps and use shared hosting, so its just as feasable to use > coldfusion, they just dont know its just as free in that case. > and its amazing to see them all trying to hack amfphp and such to > work with remoting when they could just use cfm more easily and too be > clear, they are using shared hosting, so cost isnt a concern. Whoa! 1) Most of them use shared hosting! 2) If they are using shared hosting, the "free" advantage of LAMP goes away (except to the provider)! 3) And there is prolly little, or no, extra cost to to host a site using CF! 4) The Customer gets all the RADD and maintenance benefits and $ savings of CF. 5) The developer doesn't realize that CF developer editions are free. Point made, End of discussion! I knew all these points except 5, but never put them together! I have recently participated in a "Programming Languages" discussion on the Apple OS X web forums. Everyone else was pushing PHP, Java or JSP. I proposed CFML as an alternative. Several people agreed with me, but the majority tried to shout us down. The reasons usually included: functional capability, performance and cost. I would counter that the "cost" of CF is negligible compared to the other costs, and leave it at that. But to the indie developer cost is everything-- and if he thinks he has to pony up $1,000 to $5,000 just to develop in CFML, the answer is "CF is too expensive", end of discussion. I need to listen better. Thanks, Dave-- I think that I am going to win a few more PLPCs (Programming Language Pissing Contests). And to the CF community in general: we need to get the message out that: It cost the same (prolly a lot less) to develop in CF. Dick ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193556 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54

