On Feb 8, 2005, at 3:10 PM, Mike Kear wrote: > As the person who kicked this thread off in the first place, I have to > say I'm still confused. > > My original question was about whether we'd be able to produce > standalone working apps, and I think several answers attempted to > answer it, but I dont think I fully grasped the implications. > > Here's two scenarios - can we use this new CF7 to meet these needs ... > > [Scenario A] A trade show. We want to hand out samples of our work to > visitors to the booth. Just give them CDs of some sample sites, > showing the benefits of what we can do - dynamic sites, shopping > carts, whatever. They'll need to put a CD into their PC and see the > sample sites work. I kind of get the idea that wont work unless they > already have J2EE installed on their PC? Yes?
1)With BD you can distribute everything on a CD -- the only thing that needs to be on the user's PC is a OS (OS X, Win Linux/Unix) and a JVM (pre-installed on everything but win). It will run from CD and NewAtlanta has a flexible licensing/redistro policy that makes this practical. 2)You cannot do this with CFMX7 because it will not startup from a read-only medium-- it tries to write the license.properties file at startup. 3)If MM fix this, then it will be technically possible, but may or may not be legally possible and/or economically practical because of MM's licensing/redistro policy-- that's what I am trying to get answers to > > [ Scenario B] We develop a small app. We sell the app, and send them > a CD, which they would put into their PC and run the app from the CD. > Examples of this could be a single-person training application or a > perhaps something like the file libraries that appear on the front of > magazines (but we wouldn't be putting it on magazines). That > wouldn't work either because the users would all have to have J2EE > running? > Same answers as the prior answers. > Have I got this right? You can do it today, with BDJ2ee You cannot do it today with CFMX7J2ee. > > And if J2EE is a requirement, would it be possible to put that stuff > on the CD too, and have it self-install somehow or perhaps run from > the CD? > That's (one of the) promise(s) of CFEverywhere http://www.philcruz.com/cfeverywhere/ BTW, CFeverywhere is a packaging concept... there is no charge for the ideas (or any of the components, except the CF engine). I have to attend (participate) in a breezo on CFEverywhere in a few minutes (sorry limited attendance). Phil Cruz will present the breezo, so both he and I will be unavailable for a while. But we will try to answer any posts, later, The above URL contains a link to the CFDJ article and A CFeverywhere forum. Dick "There are only two ways of telling the complete truth--anonymously and posthumously." - Thomas Sowell - ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:193761 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
