hehe no prob, its hard on this black & white medium to accurately convey the meaning thats intended
actually starting arguments can lead to a lot of otherwise unknown knowledge to be brought out ;) ---------------------------------------- From: Adam Haskell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 6:51 PM To: CF-Talk <[email protected]> Subject: Re: CFMX 7 feature breakdown Ah i see it in a new light now $3 more per month is nothing compared to a couple thousand upfront just to start...That would make a difference..I think somewhere along the lines I lost the original intent. I was just trying to argue, read work avoidance. Adam H On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 18:00:02 -0500, dave wrote: > I wasn't implying getting into a price war with php, I was simply implying to > eductate those php users that don't realize that chances are pretty good that > using coldfusion is a viable option to php with really no cost to them. A > majority of them really think that they will have to fork out a few grand > just too use it, which simply isn't true at all. > > ---------------------------------------- > From: "John Munyan" > Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 5:42 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: CFMX 7 feature breakdown > > One of the things I have learned about business development in a course I > have taken concerns lifetime value of customers. Initially an emerging > technology business tries to gain traction with a certain niche which serves > as an anchor to a wider segment. Initially focus is key, then as things > diversify generalization takes over and share is maximized with low margins. > Lastly, a revaluation of customers is done as a business reaches maturity. At > this point, it is key to determine where your revenues are derived from. > Roughly 80% of revenue is made from 20% of customers (or something like > that). The lowest quartile (most price sensitive customers) should be cleared > from the reams they actually cost money to carry. At this point it is also > key to differentiate you product or service along dimensions other than price. > > Thus my take, if I was MM I would not be drawn into a price war with PHP and > open source and instead highlight the aspects of CF which diversify it from > the open source offerings. I would be interested to know the breakdown of > hosting by cost. Also would be very interested in the margins associated with > these classes of customers. > If the ease of use and rapid development et.al doesn't command a premium then > by association there is no 'added value'. And having used the produce for a > couple years would assert it certainly demands a premium - I find it's > function very compelling. You want a 'superior good' it will cost more. > > I could go on but this is probably getting way off topic. > > John > > ________________________________ > > From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wed 2/9/2005 1:42 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: CFMX 7 feature breakdown > > Adam, > > Did you check the list I posted earlier? There were several ColdFusion hosts > under 10 dollars listed on it. > > - Calvin > > -----Original Message----- > From: Adam Haskell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 4:18 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: CFMX 7 feature breakdown > > Yes 3 dollars big deal I agree but some would not. Alternatively what > if I said CF has 30% premium to host..sounds a bit different. You can > dimish the value of anything, the opposite applies too. My point is > the price of hosting is more expensive for Coldfusion and that does > make a difference to people, maybe not you or me, but we know the > extra benifits CF has and $3 is nothing...to the Graphic artist or new > to the web type of guy that goes to findawebhost.com (or some host > comparison place) and sees a PHP host for 3 bucks or a CF host for $7 > or $10 then where do you think he is going to go? > > My main point is that you can't say that it costs the same for a CF > site as it does for a PHP site in a shared hosting enviroment. > > Adam H > > On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 12:38:08 -0500, dave wrote: > > oh geez! thats getting a little bit nit picky dont you think? > > lets see my clients host at hostmysite.com > > its $133.55 a yr that = $11.13 a month with free domain name (smarter > power plan) > > and you cant argue that they are not a good host! > > > > I can already see the php crowd drooling over this > > "BUT ITS $3 CHEAPER A MONTH TO HOST IT!!" > > > > OMG!!! i can switch to php and retire at the end of the year!! > hurrayyyyyyy > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. 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