> i dont know, i dont use vs but at least with MM products you can
> code in .net can you code in cfm in visual studio? or for that matter any 
> other 
> non m$ language?  

Yes...a text editor is a text editor is a text editor.  You won't
obviously won't get syntax highlighting etc. for CFM.

> You certainly can't say that m$ does as much for web developers as MM 
> unless you mean M$ only web developers and then they can't come up 
> with anything good thats original or their own. 

I'm a MS web developer and I'd like to think I do good work.  If
you've ever used VS for ASP.NET work, you'd see there's a lot MS does
for its developers that would be nice to have in an MM IDE.

> So they have what? .net and......

..net...and...market share, and a nice IDE, and a wide range of
products that, despite quality issues, sell based on the MS brand
alone.  Not that I'm a huge fan of the company, but they have a lot
going for them, and a lot of smart people.

>  They can't even make their damn hunk o junk browser right

Ok, IE is a piece...

>  remember asp and how BIG it was gunna be........

It was big.  Still is.  And I can't stand it (classic or ASP.NET).

>  Isnt vs just a glorified fp anyway?

No, not at all.  VS comes from VB and Visual C.  It may have a little
bit of the old FP for dealing with web stuff, but VS is their IDE for
all MS development, not just web stuff.

>  I can't truely imagine that they'd come up with something that that 
>  couldnt control the code output from, then were would there monopoly go?

They know it'd be pointless to do that, because we'd call it .aspx
then rename it .cfm.

>  i type this as i am reformating and reinstalling everything 
> AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sounds like a neat trick, how exactly are you typing this?  May want
to get a Mac mini :)

-Joe


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