>But why? ... there isn't a single person who provided good arguments for
>the use of Flash forms :) 

There actually have been a couple of good arguments--perhaps you don't agree 
with them, and you wouldn't choose to use them (no matter what, it sounds 
like), but there have been a couple of very good examples.  Ray's mention of 
replacing a four-step process with a single Flash form is pretty compelling IMO.

>Why would I take all that time, to refactor flash forms, when you can
>achieve the same, and even more with html forms :) I am really
>interested in what situations would require flash forms.

More with HTML forms?  Specific examples please.  I might agree that there is 
much in the Flash forms that you *can* achieve with Javascript, etc. but the 
issue at that point is the amount of work involved and whether or not the end 
result is as nice for the user as Flash forms can be in the right hands.

>And it is not that Flash forms are "bad", it is a direct answer from my
>own perspective on "why don't you see much flash forms". Or more "why I
>don't use Flash forms" :)

Why don't you see much use of Flash forms?  CFMX 7 just came out last week!  
Think that might have something to do with it?

>This also hasn't got much to do with CFMX 7, because Flash forms were on
>the market earlier. :) So It must have something to do, with the need
>for them, and I think there is no real need, there is only technology
>push. :)

Well, if by "on the market earlier" you mean "this could be done with the Flash 
IDE," then sure, that's correct.  The point here is you can do the same thing 
(actually better things) with simple CFML tags.  I've built Flash forms in the 
Flash IDE and it's incredibly cumbersome compared to this new process, and is 
actually far more akin to Flex than to Flash components in functionality.  I 
think now that it's simpler we'll start seeing more of them, particularly after 
CFMX 7 has been out for more than a week.

I'm not trying to convince you that Flash forms will replace your HTML forms, 
and neither is Macromedia.  Use Flash forms when it makes sense to do so, and 
don't when it doesn't.  I just think a lot of people on here on being extremely 
dismissive without really understanding how they can (and will!) be used 
effectively.

Matt

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