see now that makes more sense :) I say write things on here all the time and then when i read them it completely isnt what i meant at all, haha But I was like DAMN, I cant believe he said that lol.
See I was intrigued by flash forms for the tabs but mostly for the validation, because I think that flash's validation is way nicer than js. Although most major apps would probably need at least a combo of both. But just how they can be done in a visual way is what I liked. But making them in the flash ide is way nicer and really much simplier that the old html way. Either way I think there is great potential :) on a side note* at our cfug tonight our MM rep was there and man they got some cool stuff in the works! Even for you Micha:) When it happens your gunna be in creamcicle city!!!! ---------------------------------------- From: "Micha Schopman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 3:14 AM To: CF-Talk <[email protected]> Subject: RE: Any sites using the new Flash foms? No you read, want you want to read. I didn't say that :) I meant that the learning curve of Flash forms is very low, and thus providing beginning users a better starting point in forms and data entry than domscript supported forms do. Like Raymond said, once you skilled domscript there is not a real need to go back to flash forms anymore. Some people always underestimated the possibilities of it, untill they saw some real scenarios using domscript on a large scale (gmail for ex.). The same counts for Flash, but I think the upcoming brand new Flash player will be the deciding moment, browsers still hogg horribly with Flash instances open. I see flash forms, and that is just a personal view of it; as a tool providing developers who are unexperienced with domscripting, with quick results but against the price of consistency, and usability. Also, I have always been one of those who think you should do it (web applications) 100% Flash, or don't. I would like an application 100% Flash (like a Flex approach), I do not like an hybrid application. You argument about some doctor, doesn't make sense, I hope you see that too. I can smack that mobile device with any type of GUI, built with any type of toolkit whether it is domscript, win forms, or flash. Micha Schopman Software Engineer Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----- Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----- -----Original Message----- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: woensdag 16 februari 2005 8:54 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Any sites using the new Flash foms? that what you said was totally uncalled for..... Do you realize that you just told Raymond Camden that he's not good enough to make a web app? Because he's using flash forms and he should leave it to you. Thats pretty bold, i mean i say some retarded things but geezo.......... You may not have a use for them but maybe when you get smacked by a truck and are in the hospital and the doctor has his pocket puter out and gets all your info in correctly because hes using an app that uses flash forms and was able to more quickly enter in the important info in by tabbing through the normal 20 pages of input info and only getting what is needed in, it just might save your life. Like i been told so many times before "use whats right for the job" ---------------------------------------- From: "Micha Schopman" Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 2:42 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Any sites using the new Flash foms? What are you saying? ... Micha Schopman Software Engineer Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----- Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----- -----Original Message----- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: woensdag 16 februari 2005 8:29 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Any sites using the new Flash foms? thats so lame micha! the funny thing is ppl that that talk like that make the UGLIEST web apps!!! sure they may work good but pleazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz if you cant see the benefit of flash forms then maybe you need to look at the calendar....its 2005 btw~~~~ ---------------------------------------- From: "Micha Schopman" Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 2:24 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Any sites using the new Flash foms? You can include the library. Any person with some knowledge of javascript is able to do this. If you don't even know the basics in web development then I'd suggest people stick to flash forms, or don't try it at all, and leave the work to the people doing these things for their living. Micha Schopman Software Engineer Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----- Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----- -----Original Message----- From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: dinsdag 15 februari 2005 17:43 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Any sites using the new Flash foms? But where is the code for tabpage? Sure you can create it elsewhere and include it in a library - but your email here makes it seem like JS is _just_ as easy as cfform dev. With your sample below you have to develop the library first. On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 17:17:39 +0100, Micha Schopman wrote: > In my case I'd just do. > > > > > > > var tp = new tabpage(document.getElementById('tabpage')); > tp.attach(new tab('tab one', document.getElementById('tabone'))); > tp.attach(new tab('tab two', document.getElementById('tabtwo'))); > > > Micha Schopman > Software Engineer > > Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort > Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 > KvK Amer ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. 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