I guess what I was getting at is that any program thats fixes and patches take up more space then the actual program is pretty much a "broken" product.
Thats weird with red hat, never heard that before but I haven't used red hat. I have or use suse 9.1 pro, suse 9.2 pro and one other (can't remember lol) and I havent had hardly any updates like that, suse had 1 semi major update i believe, oops, im sorry "patch" as far as someone commented on if i had looked at xp sp2, umm yeah, even tried to install it once (shoulda known better!!!) and i wont make that mistake twice. Its funny that came up in our cfug this week (sp2) and most ppl in the group tried to install it and it crashed their systems, so at least its not just me. I tried a few months ago to install a buffer over run patch which wiped my system out too. Whats funny is on this months install I havent put in any patches and its running better than it ever has. Was running great till i put on .net which really slowed it down but still much better than usual. And yeah sp2 introduced new features but for what? Too fix their holes? All it did was open up 2x as many new ones, I dont think thats a security update at all!, probably safer to not have it at this point as ppl will be hitting the new holes and not the old ones. I did get sp2 to install on xp home on the other puter, which promtly shut down cfm and everything else that wasnt ms related. IMO, if they wanted security they shoulda just shut their services down, thats where the damn problems are. But as michael t. said its probably "user error" and i shoulda taken the time to find out why and I asked for a clarification but none was provided, so therefor in my mind its a ms botch job. As far as the linux kernal updating, i dont have a problem with them giving me a better kernal! Better than a half-assed patch thats too little, too late....... dave aka Captain Access (per .net will) haha ---------------------------------------- From: "Ben Rogers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 8:48 AM To: CF-Talk <[email protected]> Subject: RE: Internet Explorer 7 (no really!) > in size wise how big is that? I don't know. I zambonied that box. It was too much of a support headache. > then take a base copy of xp and add all the patches, fixes, sp1,sp2 and > so on what kinda size is that? Since when has hard drive size been an issue? For me, the bigger problem is having to stay on top of security updates and booting the server every two days. > xp patches and service packs alone are probably bigger than the whole os > install It's possible. I don't know off hand. But the XP install is still only a single CD. RedHat Enterprise Linux 3 was something like 6 or 7 CDs. > and at least with your linux kernals its actually upgrading your linux > system, i dont see where any patches or fixes are actually upgrading xp at > all That's part of the point. I don't want security patches and bug fixes to introduce new features -- and new bugs necessitating new security patches and bug fixes. If I want new features, I'll buy a new OS or install third party software on top of my existing OS. Regardless, you should read up on Windows XP Service Pack 2. It did, in fact, introduce many new features. Most were added for the sake of security, however. Ben Rogers http://www.c4.net v.508.240.0051 f.508.240.0057 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:195294 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
