> I remember some of these tool debates on what we use to > build our projects, and the discussions on dw VS homesite > VS plum, etc...etc..
> Not trying to get anyone in trouble here, I just thought > this was a REALLY interesting article from Forta. It was a > great sanity check for me! > http://www.sys-con.com/coldfusion/article.cfm?id=696 > So after reading it, what do most of you guys/gals use to > build your apps? > me, dwmx all the way. Used homesite and didn't like it. dw > is like cf to me, very comfy cozy. I've heard about it > being a resource hog? Maybe so, but I have a big hogpen > here, no problems with resource availability. I remember this article. Not a bad article, although I use exactly 0 of the features mentioned in it... When I introspect CFC's I don't use an IDE to introspect them because my CFC's aren't designed in such a way that introspection via DW, etc. would really be very helpful. As of yet I haven't found a need for SOAP in my own development, a CFC wizard isn't in my toolset because I just don't use wizards for anything, and debug output in an IDE tends to be much more useful to people who put all their code (or most of it) into a single base template with no required url variables. As I use a framework most of the time I'm not editing the base template and even if I were I'd have to provide url variables to the IDE in order to get the appropriate debug output which -- although I could be wrong -- I'm not aware DW has any facility for this. I do however still use Dreamweaver for all my development lately. I tried CFEclipse once and it trashed my project and was very difficult to work with. It's been a while since I tried it last though, and I might try it again now and see if it still treats the file system of all projects like Java projects (which is how mine got trashed). I used jEdit for a while and was really happy/impressed with some of the features -- the problem with jEdit in general though boiled down to SWING. It seems (again I could be wrong) impossible to produce a clean, fast, user-friendly IDE using the unadulterated SWING components. I was a big fan of ColdFusion Studio actually for a long time and I stuck with it pretty vehemently. These days I'm being asked to use Homesite+ where I work because of issues related to the way dreamweaver handles files across a network. Though for my own development, the features of DW that I've found to be _immensely_ superior to CF Studio / Homesite+ are the project deployment and search features. CF Studio / Homesite project deployment (which isn't used at the office) seemed pretty nice to me at the time until I had to deploy an exceptionally large project and discovered that there was apparently a memory leak or the like which required me to restart it after deploying the project to prevent "bad things" happening. In retrospect, beyond that obvious flaw, DW's ability to incrementally synchronize individual templates or directories via the context menu in the file browser is light-years ahead of the curve in terms of ease of use compared to CFS/HS+. Saying that the Search feature is one of the big selling points for me probably sounds a little silly. Though when I used CFS/HS+ I used the multi-file search feature more often than the standard search feature, even if I only used it against a single template. Iirc there was never a keyboard shortcut for this feature, so I always had to reach out to the mouse to open it, which I discovered bothered me after being initially very impressed with the feature. The fact that DW places both search and search+replace on the same window and allows me to use ctrl+F to execute _any_ kind of search I might need is very convenient to me now. And in all honesty, I've become rather fond of the single-tree file browser as opposed to the 2-paned file browsers in CFS/HS+. My only complaint has been that the project setting "automatically upload files to server on save" doesn't go far enough. This feature has saved me a lot of time synchronizing my projects, however, what I'd really _love_ is to have this feature extended to every file action performed via the context menu in the file menu or file browser (move/rename/delete). Rather than "automatically upload files to server on save", I'd rather have "automatically synchronize files when changed". I actually took the time to create a DW extension which did just this, except that DW doesn't offer any hooks in it's API for modifying the project preferences so I wasn't able to add the checkbox where I wanted it. In lieu of that I added a couple items to the file context menu for "synch move", "synch rename" and "synch delete". Unfortunately I could never make the extension's behavior 100% gracefull -- it was allways a bit squirrelly in comparison to DW's native features and it was never able to support projects across FTP or RDS properly (or at all IIRC). And I still desperately want a checkbox in the preferences which allows me to _completely_ disable the design view, which MM seems to be _completely_ disinterested in offering me. DW is so closely tied to the design view that I find it frequently open in spite of never opening it myself -- I think just switching between working templates frequently activates "split" mode. (So I take it back, this is my big complaint -- the previous is my big wish.) s. isaac dealey 954.927.5117 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://macromedia.breezecentral.com/p49777853/ http://www.sys-con.com/story/?storyid=44477&DE=1 http://www.sys-con.com/story/?storyid=45569&DE=1 http://www.fusiontap.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. 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