My point is that if you are running 818 you are NOT fully patched.


-----Original Message-----
From: John Paul Ashenfelter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 01 March 2005 21:53
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Securing MS-SQL port 1433

On Tue, 1 Mar 2005 20:53:13 -0000, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  I would say NONE - all of the SQL boxes we have (and we have thousands)
are
> a) protected with hardware and software security.  They are all patched to
> the highest degree (where needs be, as not all servers require all patches
> for loopholes and indeed some cannot have them).

Great! So by hardware and software security I'll take a stab at
translating that as at least a firewall. So far we're in agreement.
Remember, this started b/c I said anyone who left port 1433 open was
an idiot -- now we're into discussing how to assess the risk from a
specific vulnerability (choosing which patches to apply) and which
service pack which *are* (potentially) past the normal desktop user's
area of responsibility.
 
> Let me ask you, what version of SQL are you running? 8.00.818?

Actually, yes I am on my production servers. My clients are a mix of
..818 (post-SP3 hotfix) and .760 (SP3). And to be completely fair, my
laptop actually runs 8.00.760 (with Named Pipes disabled).
 
> Note you do not have to patch all risks if the risk is low  - for example
> there may be an issue where a maliscious user could access your server but
> its only a problem/issue if the maliscious user can gain access to it...

Agreed -- whether it's MS-SQL or Windows (or Linux or CF or whatever)
you don't have to immediately apply patches if you're not vulnerable
to the issue. As I've said, I run my laptop in *horrors* SP3 instead
of the post-SP3 hotfix -- upgrading wasn't worth the risk (though when
I build a new box, it goes to .818 by default)
 

-- 
John Paul Ashenfelter
CTO/Transitionpoint
(blog) http://www.ashenfelter.com
(email) [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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