damn i need a spell checker lol ---------------------------------------- From: "dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 11:20 PM To: CF-Talk <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Anyone used these tools?
I realized that after I sent that Spike, sorry bout that :) I know most ppl on here don't like my attitude but I will ALWAYS, ALWAYS help where I can, as quite a few ppl on here can attest. I too grow tired of the "it better be free and it better work flawlessly" crap myself. I mean I can spend $400 on an OS that surely isn't perfect (not my choice words btw) and hell I can't even get help with that product, so expecting rose pedals to be included with free things too me is absurd. But the other point of the post was that that company refuses to work around a current bug to make the site accessable is crazy! If the site was a general public site marketed towards grandma and grandpa still running on ie then ok they might be ok but to be seeling web technology makes theur comments, silly, since the ppl most likely using their site are also most likely using ff as well. ---------------------------------------- From: Spike Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 11:02 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Anyone used these tools? Thanks Dave, My reply wasn't to your post, it was to Claude's. I expect that you are indeed the type of person who would get on with the job of actually trying to fix things. What ticks me off are the people who expect everything to be done for them for free and voiciferously complain when it doesn't happen, but don't do anything to help those who are volunteering their time. For most developers documentation is one of the least favoured jobs and it is one of the few things that someone who really doesn't have development skills or much experience with a product can contribute to. That's why I found Claude's remarks so irritating. Spike dave wrote: > I don't, simply put. But I also don't complain about it either and I > appriciate the work ppl like you do, that wasn't the point. > The point is if you are gunna bitch about something then do something about > it cause bitching on here won't change it. > I bitch about ms all the time but at least I take it to them as well and try > to get what im bitching about fixed. > > ---------------------------------------- > From: Spike > Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 10:47 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Anyone used these tools? > > I can't help but ask how much have you donated to these people who you > think should be writing documentation. > > Even if you believe that they are the ones who should be writing it, > surely you don't believe that they should do it for free. > > Not forgetting that THEIR product is something you get for free and > which has done an enormous amount to allow for the creation of sites > that are completely compatible on multiple platforms. > > As someone who spends about 15 hours a week writing software that I give > away for the benefit of everyone I really do have to shake my head and > wonder if it's worth it when people come back with an attitude like this. > > Spike > > Claude Schneegans wrote: > >>>>why don't you donate some of your time and go help them then. >> >>What a dummy remark :-( >>Documentation should be done by the ones who know their product, not by >>the one who wants to learn. >>Spending hours to try to make scripts compatible withe THEIR product is >>already helping them. >>But having to spend hours just to find how it works is kind of insulting >>for other developers. >> > > -- -- -------------------------------------------- Stephen Milligan Code poet for hire http://www.spike.org.uk Do you cfeclipse? http://cfeclipse.tigris.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:198124 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54

