> While creativity, by its very definition, cannot be picked up by a book,
> usability and other important UI concerns can. And it's important when
> discussing real-world corporate experience to point out that most 
> real-world
> corporate applications have awful UIs, and no one really cares that much.

Hear hear Dave!

This isn't UI entirely, but someone from Australia mentioned an experience 
with an HP site and being asked for contact info in a US-centric format 
(which he couldn't enter).  It just goes to show that we can theorize 
ourselves to death..but alot of times what sells is NOT high quality 
customer focused apps....it's the app with the pretty swirling doo-hickey 
that the investor with $20 million likes ;-)

I'm sure in he cae of the HP site...some manager that didn't know any better 
said "Wow...that looks great...fire it up live!"

my 2 cents for ya

Cheers

Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
phone: 250.480.0642
fax: 250.480.1264
cell: 250.920.8830
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
web: www.electricedgesystems.com.cfm/54 


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