So that's the technologies involved with the demo apps on backbase.com... xhtml, css, xmlhttprequest?
Where's the best place to start learning about these and how to employ them? Boy, the backbase demos really loaded quickly! Rick (I hate Flash...) -----Original Message----- From: Micha Schopman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 11:09 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Ajax Rob, Ajax isn't from Google. It is a name "thought up" by someone from Adaptive Path which probably did it because of personal PR stunt, but the name eventually floated around the blogs as the new handle for the combination of xhtml + css + xmlhttprequest. It is easier to say Ajax, than Single Paged Interface, XmlHttpRequest, Dynamic JavaScript MuchoBlabla framework, etc. However, this approach to the web isn't something Google invented, it was available and in production even before Google had it's first office. It only took a large company as Google, to give this approach the exposure it needed. For example, in 1998 we already had MSXML implemented, .. only afterwards other vendors of browsers needed something similar, and came up with xmlHttpRequest(). IE 4.0 introduced XML for the first time, that was in November '97, and later on IE supported XML data islands, etc. The technique has always been there, it only needed a large company to expose it to the outside world on a larger scale. :) I built my first "Ajax" application in mid '98, it wasn't a full interface, but it involved dynamically loading ingredients of pharmaceutical products. So for me it is funny to see the "Google" invented it stamp on it, because others like Erik (webfx) have been using it for quite some time now. It only needed that enormous exposure, and I hope it continuous. So, just use Ajax, Google has nothing to do with it, except doing marketing for us developers. 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Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----- -----Original Message----- From: Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: donderdag 17 maart 2005 16:52 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Ajax Yes Neuromancer is open source, and it is quite a bit more powerful than ajax I think especially with coldfusion - but ajax is by google so ... :-/ I had the original computer it was on crash and burn (windows) so I am getting it setup in it's new home (linux :-D). I lost the chat demo in the crash - if anyone has a copy laying around please send it to me. You can use Neruomancer just like ajax, and it can do more too (unmarshal a cfc into a javascript object and is able to pass cf structs to and from js via web services). It works on cfmx and blue dragon (and theoretically with .net and java axis) Anyway... yadda yadda... I'll plan on doing a long blog on its usage and features soon, but with ajax on the scene, people will probably lean towards that because it's from google. (cept for the commercial sites that are already using Neuromancer) Neuromancer was/is written by me, Dick Applebaum, and Barney Boisvert If you have any questions about it feel free to email me Cheers, Rob On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 06:57:28 -0800, Spike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The correct URL for neuromancer is: > > http://www.robrohan.com/projects/neuromancer/index.cfm > > I believe it is open source, but you'd need to get confirmation from Rob > on that. > > Spike > > Rick Mason wrote: > > Michael, > > > > I think the idea of a new list on Ajax is a good one. I've become > > quite interested in it lately, especially after seeing what people are > > doing with Google maps. > > > > http://weblog.infoworld.com/udell/gems/gmap2_flash.html > > > > I've seen quite a few mentions of Neuromancer. Is Neuromancer open > > source? I don't see it on CFOpen and unfortunately the link you > > provided doesn't work. Is there an alternative place it can be > > downloaded? > > > > I'd like to experiment with CF and Ajax but don't want to reinvent the > > wheel if an API for CF'ers has already been written. > > > > > > Rick Mason > > > > > > > > On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 05:38:35 -0500, Michael Dinowitz > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >>With the current interest in Ajax (Asynchronous Javascript + XML), I've decided to open up a new list dedicated to it. This list should allow those interested in the technology to discuss it outside of ColdFusion or any specific platform. The list can be found here: > >> > >>http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/47 > >> > >>and a good article on the technology can be found here: > >> > >>http://www.adaptivepath.com/publications/essays/archives/000385.php > >> > >>some other links of interest on Ajax: > >> > >>http://www.rohanclan.com/products/neuromancer/index.cfm > >>http://www.mossyblog.com/archives/399.cfm > >>http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/messages.cfm/forumid:4/threadid: 38991 > >>http://www.robrohan.com/blog/index.cfm?mode=entry&entry=101ABA29-B8B9- B9A5-875B12724E6716C8 > >> > >> > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. 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