Dave, I understand the direction you are heading at, .. but the difficulty in building these types of applications is not in knowing the technology. There is much more involved in knowing Javascript. There is no such thing as training, because the implementations vary alot. This is not only with Javascript, but also with all other involved techniques.Only with handson experience you know the weak spots in browsers. And ofcourse everyone can build a Gmail ... but that takes years of practice. Then again, today you see specializations, and this results in people not being able to master all what is available today. I know people who can make things in Flash I just cannot achieve. Same counts for Java, Director, Not because I don't know the language. I just miss a large part of handson experience which disables me from setting up a strong professional frame. The same counts for Ajax, ... everybody can do it, it just requires those people to invest a huge amount of time in multiple sides of the technology. It has nothing to do with arrogance (and that was the last thing I wanted to communicate), it is just a fact of life, that people don't have time to learn it all. It is just to much nowadays, and that is why people specialize into what I called "expert level". Do you agree with this? :)
________________________________ From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sat 3/19/2005 1:09 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Ajax > You talked about "extremely skilled" people. "extremely > skilled" is not the average programmer. Once there are > simpler APIs - built by "extremely skilled" programmers then > this stuff will move into the reach of the "average" programmer. > > Right now, today, those simpler APIs do not exist in any > meaningful way so "stuff like that is not within the reach of > the average programmer". I talked about "extremely skilled" people building these sorts of applications with no prior experience or exposure, but went on to say that competent, average people could do the same work after training and practice. I'm sorry, Sean, but no matter how you slice it, client-side JavaScript is just not that hard, whether you have nice APIs for managing and exchanging data or not. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:199461 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
