ehehe yeah, DHTML can be fun, i'm still partial to it as i've done some fun UI concepts in ol DHTML (translated well into Flash aswell)
Just i get a bit annoyed in many ways at how everyone suddenly throws the word AJAX like its this awesome piece of technology that people haven't used properly or has gone un-used for generations of thine web. Its been used (under different names) and i've seen some much smarter apps in play using XmlhttpRequest (even the DHTML guru Erik - i think he has done enough work in dhtml to earn that title - has done some really interesting approaches with it, especially with Bindows.net) Key aspect is, AJAX is only 10% of the overall equation there is another 90% of "other" stuff that needs to co-incide before you can start raving how successful the concept is going to be. Just last night I had someone MSN me with "dude check out AJAX, its the ducks nutts" - I asked "why", reply "you can do server-side remoting like flash!" to which i then reply: "ok, then what..." silence. Thats my point. I am still waiting Micha to see your DHTML CMS thingy hehehehehe... On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 15:16:34 +0200, Micha Schopman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It becomes interesting if the approach is built into the application as > a service layer, instead of features or some enabled widgets on top of a > purely static approach (which there are often off). > > I can throw in my xmlhttprequest treeview, menu, wysiwyg widget, but I > see that only as parts of the approach. The underlying surface should be > in that approach too. In the perfect situation you only load the app > once, and update it from then. > > That is the stuff that will tickle your balls. > > Micha Schopman > Project Manager > > Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort > Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 > KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ----- > Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren > de interactie met uw doelgroep. > Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer > informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ----- > > -----Original Message----- > From: Scott Barnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: donderdag 31 maart 2005 14:07 > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Ajax > > On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 14:49:33 +0200, Micha Schopman > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Soon we will see more applications on the market featuring > functionality > > supporting the idea of a "reusable user interface" because that is > what > > Ajax really is, but only from a specific area of people who are geek > > enough to spend the time. > > > > I have seen some promising examples in the mail lately :) Not to > mention > > I am hoping to release my own part in some months which also features > > the spi approach. > > Yeah, it requires some people to pioneer its efforts up front in a > transparent enough manner in order to give that puppy some flight. I > heard Amazon are using its concept and while XmlHttpRequest is all > nice and cute to use and works on lots of browsers etc... that aside, > you still have to use the data from your remoting in a rich UI > approach - thats where people need to get onboard and understand > something others have figured out... DHTML (remoting aside) is going > to hurt to build. > > Bindows.net and DOMAPI do a nice enough job in regards to > Controls/container development and all the power to them. Just there > is more to AJAX than meets the eye imho. > > -- > Regards, > Scott Barnes > http://www.mossyblog.com > http://www.flexcoder.com (Coming Soon) > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:201097 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
