I use mySQL. Net cost: $0. In the case of Crystaltech, they give you free SQL Server space of like 1/2 GB per server. So you're back to $0 again.
Or you can use MSDE, which is a low-traffic version of SQL Server (it has a connection limit, but here again if you are just starting out its fine). I use SQL Server for the client's data and MSDE on the local box for things like client variable storage. I then use a product called MSDE Manager for an Enterprise Manager http://www.valesoftware.com/products-msde-manager.php I run it on the server itself when doing terminal server connections, so I don't have to be on an Enterprise Manager-Equipped system to manage the db. I also use it to connect to the Crystaltech SQL Server from the same box. Net cost: $79. I would argue that the value is never lost because once you become master of your own domain (literally) your reliability and capability goes thru the roof. Case in point: All of the crap you've referenced in the other thread would have never happened. On Apr 1, 2005 4:57 PM, Connie DeCinko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What about SQL Server/MySQL? Are you running that on the same box or is that > an additional expense? Where I feel the value is lost is when you have to > buy a SQL Server license and CF license for less than 10 sites. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 2:42 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Re[2]: CrystalTech does not like negative comments! > > On Apr 1, 2005 6:28 AM, Connie DeCinko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > At what point does it become feasible to go dedicated, considering you > have > > to purchase your own software, etc.? Hosting 5 sites? 10? 25? > > Boy is that ever a can o' worms! There is no straight, always-right > answer. You would have to look at what you are charging people for > hosting, how much of that you are turning over to CT and THEN work in > these factors: > > 1. "How nice would it be if I could do anything I want on MY server? > (CFX's etc.)" > 2. "How stable would my server become if only my own programming is on it?" > 3. "How many sites can I stuff onto this thing?" > 4. "Do I know how to run a server?" > > I am responsible for two clients' servers there so I know how CT sets > them up. Its a nice setup, actually. For starters you get your own > mail and stats servers (Smartertools' SmarterMail and SmarterStats). > I'm not fond of SmarterStats, but its free. And I bought SmarterMail > for my own servers as a replacement for IMail when that product went > belly up. > > They also give you Serv-U. Its not the secure version though, but its > still Serv-U. Plus your operating system is included. Windows comes > with it too. > > That only leaves CF to buy, which ain't cheap. I suppose you could do > BlueDragon's free or $899 versions too. Or you can probably rent CF, > and if so it will take you well over a year to equal your rental > payments. Maybe a good option, especially if you are just starting > out and will be adding (paying) clients over time. > > Nobody can touch CT's prices on servers, I think. US$80 per month for > an admittedly basic unit that would run 10 or so small CF sites just > fine. Then bump that up with an upgrade down the road (and keep the > $80 server for a dedicated mail server). Those dual-Xeon, 2gb units > are dirt cheap for what you get. So cheap I almost jumped ship from > my server provider when I expanded recently. > > -- > --mattRobertson-- > Janitor, MSB Web Systems > mysecretbase.com > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:201265 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54

