>As such, most DBA's will look to use one of these other methods before 
>resorting to a trigger.

you know, i've never thought of it as "resorting" to a trigger. i just
use them for what they're good for, and i don't use them for what
they're not good for. it's worked for me so far. I can't say i've ever
come across anything from oracle telling me that triggers are now
deprecated - just the usual stuff about mutating tables (which has been
there since at least version 8). Maybe we should turn this upside down:
what's wrong with triggers (in Oracle)? 

/t

>-----Original Message-----
>From: G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 6:30 PM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: Re: SQL Triggers (was Re: Last ID inserted)
>
>You prove my point perfectly. Triggers can and do work. Many 
>legacy systems 
>make extensive use of triggers, often with good results. 
>However, in most 
>new systems, the actions formerly performed by triggers are 
>being replaced 
>by other functionality.
>
>As such, most DBA's will look to use one of these other methods before 
>resorting to a trigger.
>
>> >You know a DBA who recommends and actively promotes using
>>>triggers? I don't.
>>
>> Well, i do.
>>
>> We use triggers with autonomous transactions to log failed 
>attempts to
>> modify rows without the overhead of Oracle supplemental 
>logging. In the
>> past, we have used triggers to perform "tricky" data checks, although
>> now we are starting to use more function based indexes and 
>constraints
>> (on new projects - on the old projects the triggers are still there -
>> and they still work). Although i've never used them 
>personally, Oracle
>> relies on INSTEAD OF triggers to implement modifiable views. No, we
>> don't use triggers to get the ID of the row we just inserted (we just
>> use the syntax "RETURNING ID INTO varname").
>>
>> /t
>>
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: G [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 4:54 PM
>>>To: CF-Talk
>>>Subject: Re: SQL Triggers (was Re: Last ID inserted)
>>>
>>>You know a DBA who recommends and actively promotes using
>>>triggers? I don't.
>>>
>>>
>>>> >Trust me. Triggers in the DB world are not looked on as
>>>good practive.
>>>>
>>>> The Microsoft SQL Server world is not the "DB world".
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> 
>
>

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