Not meaning to be rude, but don't you think that investing all of your
effort in one skill is turning out to be a bad idea?  What happens if
Adobe/MM DOES kill off ColdFusion?  Where will you be? This is not about me
being rude, it's about needing to realize that software languages/
technologies are here now, gone tomorrow, and you asking the company to
stick with the technology because you've learned it is about as fruitful as
asking the world to stop turning.

And I really don't want to starve any families.  But if they do, that's not
Adobe/Macromedia's fault, that's the breadwinner's fault.

- Matt Small




-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Aebig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 2:06 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: macromedia and Adobe?!

>You know, even if CF meets its maker, it's not the end of the world.  It's
>just a tool that we all use to make a living. Big deal, there are other
>things that do it as well.

As gently as I can put this, speak for yourself. I've supported MM since
Flash 3 and the integration of CF into their product line. All I've asked in
return was that they protect my investment in knowledge and help it grow.

Now I need to worry about another company running the show and potentially
running them into the ground to push ahead their own products. For you to
insinuate this as no big deal is pretty rude considering that alot of their
products help feed many families.

Kevin

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-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 11:15 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: macromedia and Adobe?!


I agree, it seems like most everybody on the list is Chicken Little.  This
is a company merger and nothing has been said about what the real impact on
CF or Flash or anything is.  Ben, oh Ben, where are you? Help us!

You know, even if CF meets its maker, it's not the end of the world.  It's
just a tool that we all use to make a living. Big deal, there are other
things that do it as well.

Think about the opportunities if CF does come to an end - which it won't -
there will be fewer and fewer people doing it, meaning that conversions to
new systems will take place, and you can be a major player in phasing it out
and then you will get the opportunity to learn a new technology which you
will probably then become a huge fan of because it's so much better than all
the others:

"Why in the world would anybody want to use anything other than Visual Java
....PHP?  It's the fastest and most scalable, and the compiler automatically
detects diseases in your body and deletes them!"

I can program in Java, CF, .NET (VB, C#), C++, Fortran, Pascal,
Javascript...  big deal, it's all the same.  It's a bunch of conditionals
that lead to a conclusion.  It's a Find-You-Own-Adventure book for
computers. There's a learning curve to get the most out of them, and some
are better than others for certain tasks (CF can't do multi-threading,
right?), but if you can program in CF, then you should be able to adapt to
the others.  If you can't adapt, then you are left in the cold and
rightfully so.

LET THE FLAMES BEGIN

- Matt Small




-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Haggerty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2005 12:51 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: macromedia and Adobe?!

I am not saying I know anything private here, but I do
not really see a reason to be concerned. In fact, this
could be really, really good for CF.

Adobe has been trying all sorts of ways to get into
open source for the last couple of years. Would not be
terribly surprised to see CF become a purely open
source product.

M

--- Rob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Adobe is not adverse to servers. They have a
> document server that can
> be used to dynamically generate pdfs
>
http://www.adobe.com/products/server/documentserver/main.html
>
> Could be good could be bad. Adobe is a pretty good
> company though so I
> personally am trying to not jump to any conclusions.
>
> --
> ~Blog~
> http://www.robrohan.com
> ~The cfml plug-in for eclipse~
> http://cfeclipse.tigris.org
> ~open source xslt IDE~
> http://treebeard.sourceforge.net
>
>








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