Web designers are the minority of all grapic designers. Which was my point.

-Adam

On 4/19/05, Kevin Graeme <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> John didn't say most designers aren't coders. I wouldn't have had a problem
> with that. But John said, "Most don't even understand the concept of a web
> server." As a designer, I called bullshit. Designers made the web
> mainstream.
> 
> ColdFusion appeals to many designers because of its tag-based roots. When
> doing web sites, the lines between designer and coder can quickly become
> blurred and I'm glad that a language like ColdFusion exists to make those
> distinctions even blurrier. Design isn't just about making pretty pictures.
> Design is much more often about communication. Clearly presenting
> information. And CF is an approachable tool for facilitating communication.
> 
> Along these lines, I see great potential for purchase of Macromedia by
> Adobe. For the last several years, Adobe has been moving into the areas of
> presentation of XML content, content management, document management,
> collaborative editing, etc. leveraging J2EE. They have enterprise
> server-side tools as well as the traditional desktop design tools that
> everyone is familiar with.
> 
> Coder vs. Designer? It's all about communication. And "designers" are tech
> savvier than people here probably think.
> 
> ---
> Kevin Graeme
> Cooperative Extension Technology Services
> University of Wisconsin-Extension
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Adrocknaphobia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 12:32 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Re: macromedia and Adobe?!
> >
> > John is right. Graphic designers by _definition_ are not programmers.
> > Thats why they have a different title. And the _vast_
> > majority of people who use dreamweaver are graphic designers
> > who can't even write HTML. Thats why there is a WYSIWYG and
> > why it's so popular.
> >
> > Again, thats not to say someone cant be skilled in both
> > areas, but considering the vast amount of knowledge it
> > requires to be a master of either, there are many highly
> > skilled graphic designers (that I have worked with) who can
> > only create HTML with a WYSIWYG. Because coding isn't
> > important to a focused graphic designer. Plus not all graphic
> > designers design for the web. Most paid design work is still
> > in print and other media.
> >
> > John is right in making an 'assumption' (not slander, not a
> > slur) that the majority of graphic designers are not coders.
> >
> > -Adam
> 
> 

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