Well a business rule is "it takes money to make money"

So what are the options? If they don't give it away then they will continue to 
go with php in which case they get no sale, no exposure and further distance 
themselfs from those potential customers and basically help keep php afloat and 
push cfm out that particular market. Or they can give it away and it's not like 
they are loosing money, maybe keep it with whatever packages they sell to these 
schools for Photoshop and such.  And get more ppl into using cfml which in turn 
will sell more licences and get cfm back in the big market which means more 
$$'s.

I'm sure it can keep itself afloat, if they don't get greedy.





~Dave the disruptor~ 

-------- Original Message --------
> From: Rick Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, May 06, 2005 12:28 PM
> To: CF-Talk <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?
> 
> Dave (the disruptor),
>  Today a student writes a program on his own machine and then when he's done 
> uploads it to the class server. So with the free development edition the 
> students are covered. The students are then jjudged on how their program 
> runs on the class server and their project can be accessed by all members of 
> the class.
>  The question is how does Adobe/Macromedia give away a free copy of an 
> unrestricted version of CF for the class server without hurting business 
> sales at the college?
>  That's the first challenge and the next one is how do you get college 
> departments to change? Right now I believe Macromedia educational sales reps 
> handle it. I think you need an educational evangelist whose sole focus is 
> based on how many schools add CF to the curriculum.
>  I think that with Adobe taking over it's time to take a fresh look at 
> promoting CF in the colleges.
>   Rick Mason
>  
> 
>  On 5/5/05, dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> > 
> > Rick,
> > There are some amazing things this merger could very well produce so long 
> > as they work the products together the same way MM has done so, there could 
> > be some big time power added to cfm. Another thing I would like to see is a 
> > small footprint version of cfm server that would be run in the os to power 
> > desktop apps and ria's, much the same as shorthorn says it will do, I know 
> > there are a few ones that will do this but I'd rather have one from the 
> > source.
> > 
> > I'm assuming this merger is a direct shot at the throat of M$ and now they 
> > will have more leverage to start the dismantling of the giant.
> > And I know some will say that will never happen so long as windows keeps 
> > going which is something Adobe doesn't have but then again Adobe has 
> > something M$ will never have and thats the image design market. And the 
> > thing is other companies are going after the os and browser market and 
> > really no one is going after the photoshop market.
> > 
> > Especially if apple doesnt mess up the marketting of this OS X but its 
> > growing, the younger generation is firmly entrenching itself in macs 
> > (except 
> > the hardcore gamers) and the ipod has become a staple of their generation. 
> > So the time is right for Adobe to make a run, lets hope they do it right.
> > 
> > ~Dave the disruptor~
> > 
> > ----------------------------------------
> > From: Rick Mason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 9:39 PM
> > To: CF-Talk <[email protected]>
> > Subject: Re: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?
> > 
> > Dave,
> > *I hope one of the things Adobe does with cfm is to license its use in
> > schools and such for free and use its deep photoshop roots to entrench it 
> > in
> > a lot of these "designer" programs.
> > *
> > That's one of the things that I have campaigned on for the longest time. 
> > All
> > the Michigan colleges and universities use CF for the business side. But
> > only one uses it on the teaching side.
> > The first language a lot of these kids learn is PHP, I think all will 
> > agree
> > that CFML is a much better choice. Guess what the marketing budget for 
> > this
> > favored position might be? How about zero, so even a slight effort could
> > displace it.
> > These students may learn C# or java later but they will end up doing their
> > personal sites with CF. What do you want to bet that when they end up out 
> > in
> > the world and want a chance to shine under a tight deadline and/or budget
> > they will remember CF?
> > I continue to believe it's a great opportunity that's being missed.
> > Rick Mason
> > 
> > 
> 
> 

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