On 5/31/05, Dave Watts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hold on, now. Java is not exactly open source, is it? Don't > > they still call it "Community Source" rather than open > > source? In other words, Java belongs to Sun. You can't just > > go out and start offering your own Java, a la Microsoft J++. > > I suspect that John is referring to all the third-party Java stuff like the > Apache project has, which is open-source.
Thanks -- right you are. Ant, Lucene, plus non-Java tools like Subversion are on the list. And I *won't* be talking about Apache Harmony (the Apache J2SE clone). The recent Richard Stallman stance (speaking out on Java in OpenOffice 2.0) that a project isn't really good open source if it has dependencies that are not open source (ie Sun's Java) is really even a little extreme for the bulk of the open source community. Just like folks happily use the open source CFlib.org functions (one of CF's biggest open source options, along with Fusebox, MachII, and FarCry) despite the fact that they require a non-open platform (CF) to run, I'm going to not get bent out of shape about Java being a dependency for many of the tools I use :) > Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software > http://www.figleaf.com/ -- John Paul Ashenfelter CTO/Transitionpoint (blog) http://www.ashenfelter.com (email) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:208194 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
