I don't think I'm saying that CF is the best. My question is quite different than that.
We're talking about a generalized scenario that some posters feel PHP/LAMP is a better solution for than CFML. My curiousity is, why so? - Calvin -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 8:21 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF vs LAMP Does belonging to this list infer that I believe CF is the best web programming language? I hope not, and there are many reasons to use CF beside the fact that "it's the best." Matthew Small Web Developer American City Business Journals 704-973-1045 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 8:15 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF vs LAMP I'm certainly not taking offense, I'm observing a pattern of behavour. We also aren't entirely cognizant of the business strategy regarding the below items either. In this particular case, the OP requested ammunition to assist in overcoming a potential LAMP bias in providing a solution. A significant response has said that LAMP is the better solution based on a number of generalities, that in theory, always hold true (such as number of available developers). And that begs the question, why bother with an inferior solution, if indeed that is the case. Is PHP in general a better solution than CF? That's the underlying theme that I'm observing, that in some folk's opinions on this list, it is. Interesting, if my observation is true, as this is a CF list. - Calvin -----Original Message----- From: Micha Schopman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 8:04 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF vs LAMP Calvin, As always, it not always depends on the requirements for a project, but also on the strategy of business regarding sales, communication, partnerships, certifications, etc. Like others, we are not advocating, we are merely observing. We like CF, we like PHP, we like Python, we like ASP.NET, we like everything which we can build cool applications with. My cats have not been called cfdump and cferror, and my personal library is full of books about a wide variety of languages, software design. I need to, there aren't that many CF books to fill room with. If the discussion involved ASP 3.0 I would have said you are totally right. ;) Do not take offence when people say good things about "bad" languages, the goodness of them might depend on opinions. :) Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----- Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----- -----Original Message----- From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: woensdag 1 juni 2005 12:51 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF vs LAMP What I am observing is an increasing number of participants on this list (CF list) advocating PHP instead of CF, without even the benefit of knowing the total requirements of a given project. Which potentially results in the self fulfilling process that was the point of my previous communication. Is PHP a better, more cost effective solution? If so, we are wasting our time here and need to move on. - Calvin -----Original Message----- From: Micha Schopman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 7:35 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF vs LAMP "I don't think finding someone would ever be an issue, there's a good number of CF developers not employed or looking for additional work all over the country/world." This is definitely not the case. Maybe in the US, but certainly not everywhere. As far as lamp concerned, PHP is a very mature platform, as well as Apache. There is a lot of ignorance regarding PHP. PHP scales very well, it runs cross platform, and direct access to resources for development on the job market are very high. OO development is supported for a long time, the community is immense, it has tailor made development software, it has tailor made compression techniques, tailor made template engines, and very large applications are not an issue. Don't let yourself be blinded by your CF love, PHP is very much alive as a high end development platform. :) Micha Schopman Project Manager Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL Amersfoort Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388 KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----- Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren de interactie met uw doelgroep. Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? 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