At 09:27 AM 9/18/00 -0700, you wrote:
>Your problem is a perfect candidate for the Fusebox methodology.  Read 
>into it here: http://www.fusebox.org.

Well, this other person, the one who works for the client and not for us, 
will not be doing any CF programming. This person might make small HTML 
changes and is perfectly capable of doing this. However, in the process of 
doing the things that he can do, he might accidentally mess up something 
that would look like we messed up. We need to tell if he accidentally 
messed something up or if we messed something up. I don't think that 
fusebox would help for these circumstances. We're worried about the guy 
accidentally deleting a pound sign or a close bracket. This is why we need 
to track it.

>Aside from that, it seems like you've got some communication problems 
>between you, the client, and the other developers that need to be resolved.
>
>Who is in control of the project overall?  That person need to coordinate 
>the development efforts and makes sure everyone involved knows who's doing 
>what.

Well, there are people that work with us that are in charge of all the 
things that we do. But the whole point of having this other person at the 
company office is that the person would not have to involve us in the 
change, thus incurring less charges with us. Realistically speaking, this 
person is not going to answer to us. This person actually answers to the IT 
department of the client company and the IT department has nothing to do 
with the website. There is a person at the client company who assigns work 
to us and approves it when the work is completed, but she is not a 
technical person and is unable to advise in that capacity. We don't like 
the idea of someone who basically has free access to the server and to the 
site code with no one to oversee what he is doing, but we have no say in 
that. Some of the changes that this person will be making are things that 
we will gladly turn over to him, such as data-entry.

>I would recommend that if that person does not exist, that you hire that 
>person to oversee the development efforts.
>
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jennifer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 3:10 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Slightly OT: versioning control
> >
> >
> > Several companies that we do sites for have hired someone to make small
> > changes to the site so the company doesn't have to call us to make these
> > changes. Of course, this makes us very paranoid. We don't want some other
> > person making changes to the site, having the site break, and not be able
> > to track that he made the changes. We've been considering how to set up
> > versioning control and we're leaning towards CVS but we're worried about
> > exactly how to set it up. We have a development server and we have a live
> > server. We need to track changes made to the development server. (We will
> > also be tracking pushes to the live server, but that's easy enough.) The
> > ideal situation is that people could test on their servers then
> > push to the
> > development server but we foresee some problems with this. The
> > main problem
> > is connecting to the database. For us to test locally with a remote
> > database connection we'd each have to be running CF Server on our
> > computers. This is not necessarily doable since some people are currently
> > using Macs. Originally we had decided to have a local testing server, a
> > development server, and a live server but these new remote guys
> > complicate
> > that. So we've decided to set up CF Server on the PC desktops and on the
> > new guys' machines, but this is starting to seem overly complicated.
> >
> > We know that some of you are developing sites with other
> > developers and we
> > are just wondering how you handle it. I guess we're hoping that there's a
> > simpler way.
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