On 7/23/05, S. Isaac Dealey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The thing about rails is that it generates a > > bare bones scaffold form that includes all of > > the editable portions of that table which can > > easily be modified at a later time. In CF, > > you still need to create a form with all of > > the fields before you can do anything else. > > Yeah, that's the portion I wasn't sure about when I watched their 15 > minute presentation. I'm not sure I like it generating that much of > the form on the fly... Not that there's anything wrong with it per-se, > but I don't think I'd prefer it. I could build the same thing as a > tool for the onTap framework in a few minutes -- all the groundwork > for it is already in place, fetching and caching the database > meta-data for tables and columns and foreign key constraints, etc. All > it would take is to sit down and write up a custom tag or a display > template that fetches the column info, loops over that query and > generates the form fields with similar assumptions about the data type > and positioning. Something like this: > > <cfset rscol = request.tapi.db.columns(variables.table)> > <cfmodule template="#request.tapi.xhtml()#"> > <cfoutput> > <tap:form> > <cfloop query="rscol"> > <cfswitch expression="#rscol.datatype#"> > <cfcase value="text,ntext,clob,nclob"> > <cfset type="textarea"> > </cfcase> > <cfdefaultcase> > <cfset type="text"> > </cfdefaultcase> > </cfswitch> > <input type="#type#" name="#rscol.name#" label="#rscol.name#" /> > </cfloop> > </tap:form> > </cfoutput> > </cfmodule> > > That's just a 2 minute writeup, so it doesn't account for the primary > key (which should be a hidden field) or include converting > foreign-keys to select boxes, but that's not much code either. > Yes, this is true, but still, the user has to create this form, or does your frame work generate a cfm file with this logic in it?
> > I was initially wowed by the rapid > > development aspect of RoR, as I get > > deeper into the framework, I'm wowed > > by more interesting things. Say you > > have two tables that are related, say > > an order table and then a line item > > table. The line item table with have > > a column called order_id. The models > > that RoR creates will be aware of the > > relationships. Then you can use > > simple methods to add new line items > > to the order object. You'll not have > > to worry about primary keys and > > foreign keys at all. > > Yep, these features are available in onTap too... They may not be as > complete, but they're definately there. > > > Joe Rinehart has recently done this > > with MG and I think it's a great step. > > I hope the days of zip packages only > > is limited. I think it's great that > > I can view what changes Joe has made > > to his framework. This makes me feel > > like I have the ability to be more of > > a part of it. > > I'll have to see about setting up subversion on my server at home. > It's pretty simple, if your interested, I've got a couple of links that spell out exactly how to set one up on Win32 machines. > > That said, I still haven't tried out > > your framework. I might suggest that > > you make a video similar to the 15 > > minute blog video you saw. That would > > go leaps and bounds towards generating > > even more interest in your framework. > > Ask and ye shall receive. :) > > http://www.fusiontap.com/docs/index.cfm?netaction=articles&article=200 > > It's been up on the framework site since April. For a while it was set > up as the default home page, but that turned out to be somewhat > annoying... It's in the Articles and Tutorials section. > > Several folks have also said that it seems long, so although I'm not > real sure why 18 minutes is "long", I have been considering recording > some shorter demo's more like the quickstart guide I wrote recently. > I'd split it into two. I'm not really a "powerpoint" type of guy and initially I watched it, but thought it was all going to be slides, so I closed it. I watched it all the way through only after you said it had a demo. Truthfully, this is about the third time I've watched it. All previous times I cut it off about halfway because of the slides. The second part has more wow factor than the first. Just out of curiosity, how would the onTap framework handle multiple record forms, say you have a list of 10 products and you want to be able to let people edit all of the prices at one time. > > s. isaac dealey 954.522.6080 > new epoch : isn't it time for a change? > > add features without fixtures with > the onTap open source framework > > http://www.fusiontap.com > http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:212690 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
