>>If you can show me how to take a bunch of markup and convert it into a

>>JS menu that'll work on NS4+, IE4+, Gecko and Safari without it being
>>messy, I'll be very impressed.  To this point, I've utterly failed.

I agree with you about IE4 and NS4, although I didn't even try to make it 
compatible
with them. 
However, I suspect these are only used
by a couple of extremists just to check if your site supports them and complain
if it doesn't.
And why NS4 and not NS3, 2, 1?
After all, you don't support CP/M, do you?

>>I absolutely agree this would be desirable, but it doesn't handle
>>security properly (you don't want to do security client-side, so you
>>need an abstract representation on teh server anyway)

I do this with CF, intranet users never see options they are not allowed to,
and even if they know the url and call it directly, they will be kicked off.
CF is perfectly capable of handling this.

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