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-----Original Message-----
From: Russ Michaels [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 10 August 2005 14:57
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Looking for very simple CMS

Yes I have always hated it. And I generally wont deal with a company that
wont publish prices.

Russ 

-----Original Message-----
From: Mark A Kruger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 10 August 2005 14:45
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Looking for very simple CMS

Russ,

That really annoys me - that "call for pricing" model.  It seems morally
reprehensible.

-Mark


-----Original Message-----
From: Russ Michaels [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 8:40 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Looking for very simple CMS


At least there is a choice with the Savvy pricing. If you only need 1-5
users u can get it for $1350.
Granted I wouldn't exactly call it cheap for what it offers as it is a
pretty basic CMS. But if you look at things like commonspot and ShadoMX,
your looking at a price tag of at least $20,000 period. And last time I
looked they did not even publish the pricing as they tend to charge yuou
according to the size of your company and how much they think u can afford.

There are a few other really cheap ones out there, but I think they are
awful.
If time is an issue, then you need to spend money, if money is an issue,
then you need to spent time rolling your own.
You have Spectra which is now open source, plus farcry and speck for
coldfusion if you want a free solution.

Of course you don't even have to stick with CF, there are plenty of PHP, ASP
options out there as well.

Regards
Russ Michaels



-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Ferguson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 10 August 2005 14:23
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Looking for very simple CMS

"... No we are not free, but we are pretty affordable I think. ..."

WHAT??? Reading on your website, I see the unlimited version for almost
$14,000 and the single encrypted source version for about $1,400. Sounds to
me like somebody needs a real competitor in the market to help correct those
prices downward!

--Ferg


Joshua Cyr wrote:

>Hi Ray,
>
>Don't want to use this list as advertising but to clarify...
>
>No we are not free, but we are pretty affordable I think. (of those 
>that are not open source of course) Especially for developers who sign 
>up as a partner and get the partner discounts.  We changed our pricing 
>model to better compete with contribute and others, and to better 
>support our partners.
>
>If it really just needs to have some wysiwyg elements and simple forms, 
>than making your own with fckeditor may be the way to go.
>
>David, send me a private email and I will see what we can do for you.
>
>Ray, since your right around the corner I would be happy to meet with 
>you for lunch some time to talk about savvy, pricing and get your feedback.
>
>Best,
>
>Joshua Cyr
>www.besavvy.com
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Ray Champagne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 5:58 PM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: Re: Looking for very simple CMS
>
>They aren't free, the last I checked, in fact, I thought that they were 
>pretty expensive.
>
>Doesn't Contribute have a fairly cheap (I remember around $90.00) 
>nonprofit price?
>
>Also, not CF, but easier than FarCry to set up, there's Mambo (php):
>http://www.mamboserver.com/
>
>Me likey Mambo, although I admit I have yet to use it in the "real 
>world", since Contribute is so much better, but it does cost money...
>
>Ray
>
>
>
>Russ Michaels wrote:
>
>
>>www.besavvy.com
>>
>>Russ
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: David Adams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Sent: 09 August 2005 22:08
>>To: CF-Talk
>>Subject: Looking for very simple CMS
>>
>>I am looking for a VERY simple Content Management System written in CF 
>>for a small community group that has no money but has CF hosting.
>>
>>Can anyone recommend one or donate some code?
>>
>>Thanks in advance.
>>David Adams
>>Ottawa Ontario
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>









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